I hope you are right Jabs, I'm more in the " I don't have any other choice but to wait and hope" camp. PIP is O for about 10 since I've been on board, and when I invested we were told 7 out of 10. I think it doesn't work well enough to identify producers, I am hoping for a luck strike on one of these someday, unless I find myself in need of a big tax loss someday....some I hold in my Roth so I'll hold those indefinitely in all likelihood.