13-4 FDA panelists thought so last time around, wallstarb, given the P3 data. If you had terminal PCa you probably wouldn't be babbling about sizzle at the chance of some extra years of life. And your qualifications to overrule the panel are what exactly? Your friend Dew, last I saw, thinks it works too, but that DNDN is too inept to demonstrate the fact. I generally share his dim view of DNDN mgt, but the trial outcome is what matters and is now a crapshoot.