on that note, I dropped off a a 4oz and 32 oz bottle with an offroad shop where i know the owner. gave him the accompanying product description page, the recent prs the sweepstakes and the ourracecar.com (which showed automotive application) and also a picture of the sweepstakes counter card. he said hed try it around the shop for a week and wed go from there. Ill give him another week and then follow up