hey bud, how is it that you are getting a conference call with him tonight, but yet i've repeatedly called him over the past week and have gotten nowhere. and don't you dare say because of his shoulder surgery. you have not responded to my past posts stating that I, like many people in this world have had surgery and still WAS ABLE TO ANSWER A PHONE CONSIDERING HE IS VICE PRES!!! have tried to contact DOUG , also NFG!!!