I am not down on this stk either but the people on this board need to understand Thurston is not going to move the stk get real. This is a bunch of honest guys running the company but I just hope they are not out of their league when it comes to handling the stk price. I do not believe that if you run the business right they will come for the stk price. It takes both today because the markets are so manipulated today not like 20 yrs. If you screw up the stk price you can screw up the company. I have seen it too many times. It is a tough game out there. You need a investment banker or an investment house helping you. One to review your PRs and how to handle the shorts. They companies that take care of the shorts if they believe in your company. there are so many things I do not understand - I have asked Mark about if they have anyone helping them. The answer I got did make me feel good.