Thanks for Your reply. Dont get too down on this one. I believe it is a winner in the end. Do you know anyone who went to the Holder meeting?...I am going to call the Auditor today to see if i can get any info on their retainer. Dukes and company have the right idea and Tridex absolutely loves this product!....I am in the process of getting a letter/call into Dukes to explain to him the problem with Apple. But i will tell you this, Apple manager Keith is keeping up with ProPalms technlogy and sales figures. He also was on the phone with me for about half hour yesturday, very unusual behavior for an apple manager (they are usually arrogant, knowing they got shareholders by the balls)...I am a technical trader because the charts dont lie, but i have countless hours of listening to bullshit artist (ceo's, inverstor relations, lawyers, etc.) explain to me how great everything is....but this Keith dude actually listened more that he talked yesturday....silence from a scam artist is usually a huge "TELL",,,,later....ed