I look at it this way. KA has gone out of his way to state multiple times in pr's that hmgp is "debt free" and "cash flow positive" and "knows nothing about the t trades", with the clear intent to lead potential investors to believe that additional shares are NOT being issued except for perhaps rare acquisition purposes. There have been no statements of acquisitions requiring shares, so the os should not have changed, especially with all that cash they got from selling off that lease a couple of months ago. If the OS has increased (especially if it is several million shares) the next time it is made public, KA will lose ALL credibility with most of the remaining shareholders, and that will cause his atm to dry up, and the business will shut down. He won't let that happen. HE will never reveal the os until he absolutely has to do so. My offer is still out there... prove me wrong and I'll leave this board forever.....