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tryoty

01/09/09 10:37 AM

#148782 RE: midtieroil #148781

"savings of $15 million per well"

At the expense of a billion or more in market cap?

Seems short sighted.
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Lickety Split

01/09/09 10:51 AM

#148783 RE: midtieroil #148781

midtieroil,

You forget that these costs are shared by all block members and more than likely by operators who will share the rig in different blocks. Yet, it appears that Addax is making the decisions for the cooperative. Short sighted is an understatement. Now is exactly the time to be exploring while oil prices are low. It takes a very long time for results to be examined and then targets to be developed. This should all be happening now while prices are low so that development has a better prospectivity to take advantage of higher prices in the future. If they continue to wait, we could very well miss future higher prices again.

Strass
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exceo

01/09/09 10:52 AM

#148784 RE: midtieroil #148781

midtieroil: I don't know where you got the idea that I ever expressed a conspiracy theory but you are way off base. (that's a nice way of saying you are wrong)
As to Grandur, you have an opinion..that is all it as..and your opinion is as good as mine. I disagree with you. For you to be correct the $15 million (your number) that he would lose has to be far greater that what his company would get in profit from that well for the worth of oil over the time he waits for a lower price (which may never come). Seems unreasonable to me..My Opinion.

Best to you.
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tryoty

01/09/09 10:58 AM

#148786 RE: midtieroil #148781

If Schrull's belief that the JDZ is a company maker turns out true, history will paint Jean Claude Gandur as a fool for not booking any and every slot that presents itself.

Addax is but a minnow itself. It will find it VERY difficult to compete for a long term rig slot. Gandur is showing a minnow CEO mindset when he needs to be growing. Too old for the job?
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wzebra33

01/09/09 11:03 AM

#148787 RE: midtieroil #148781

From NE
https://www.citigroupgeo.com/pdf/SNA28648.pdf
Mixed Messages from Fleet Update
Noble’s fleet update provides some insight into the changing offshore rig
market. The deepwater market remains tight, especially for rigs with near-term
availability.
Noble received a four-month extension on the Noble Clyde
Boudreaux from Shell for $605,000 per day, commencing in June 2009. The
Boudreaux currently is working for Shell under a two-year contract at a day rate
of $244,000. The rate of $605,000 is probably 10% below the peak market
rate for that kind of rig under a short-term contract. The market peak was in
the late spring/early summer of 2008.
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ajaxxx_99

01/09/09 11:57 AM

#148796 RE: midtieroil #148781

midtieroil .... I hear the same thing from a guy that has worked the oil patch all his life, he said the price of rigs is coming down very fast, I believe a ROO will be available IF Grandur wants one......
As to the grand conspircy , this HAS happened in the past many times, in the early 80's as i remember, oil was so cheap that the smaller companies could not stay solvent and Exxon and the other majors sucked them up, probably manipulated the price down so they could. Houston was practiclly shut down for a couple of years

Don't underestimate Exxon and the sisters, Those Arabs do not bow to mecca, they bow to Houston when things get tight.
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Art2004

01/09/09 1:03 PM

#148799 RE: midtieroil #148781

Have to agree with midtieroil re: the shortage of drill rigs and the current trend of lower prices.
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Strategyone

01/09/09 2:21 PM

#148801 RE: midtieroil #148781

I have to agree with midtieroil on GC and rig prices also.

Not that I want to agree with him. I would much, much prefer Grandur make a deal for a ROO as soon as he possibly could at whatever the cost but that is ONLY because it would benefit the near term and short term outlook for ERHE stock price and me personally.

I feel there are some posters on here that are missing a few points to the full argument.

1) Technically, the AA is under contract and should eventually show up in the JDZ. Currently the consortium is not likely going to miss the JDZ timeline of the first well drilled in 2010 (or something like that). Let's play out a possible delayed scenario for a second.... The AA was originally signed under contract with the expected delivery in early 2008 (if I recall correctly). Under circumstances beyond Addax, ERHE, or Sinopec's control, they have not hit their time table target. Now let’s say we get to early 2010 and the AA get's another 6 month delay or something like that. Does anyone here really think the JDZ, STP or Nigeria will get another company to drill any faster by relinquishing the rights under the PSC contract and rebidding it and then getting another PSC signed? Get real! Besides making the JDZ or JMC look like fools for not recognizing the INDUSTRY ISSUE of a shortage for deep water drill ships, they would likely delay the drilling by another 4 to 5 years (look at the history - when did this originally go out to bid?). It shouldn't take too many finance consultants to let the JDZ people know that it would be more prudent to allow an extension if needed and it may only need to be for 6 months to a year.

2) The current or short term market cap for EHRE should have absolutely no place in the calculations of whether it makes economic sense for Addax to pay a higher price to get a rig of opportunity in 6 months before the AA.

3) The really large elephant in the room (pun intended) is that even regardless of the potential savings of $15 million per well or $100 million for multiple wells (speculated by someone here for which I won't dispute), the real financial analysis that would need to be included would be the estimated difference in the price per oil as it went to market at the delayed time versus the current cost of money for that time period (that the different cash flow stream would create for bringing the same oil up earlier). My point here is better understood with an example: Let's say scenario 1) Addax contracts a ROO which eventually brings the oil up 1 year earlier with a projected starting price per barrel at $100. Scenario 2) Addax waits for the AA or gets a ROO one year later than scenario 1 and there is a 1 year delay on the stream of money that comes from the production of the same amount of oil but the price per barrel starts at $120.

With everything I have read over the past 9 years that I have invested in ERHE, everything points to the of oil going UP over the long term simply due to supply and demand. I would say the likely hood of scenario 2 above (with a 20% increase in the value of the same asset) is higher than the likelihood of the cost of funds being a greater percent (in this case the oil companies/shareholders cost of funds would have to be greater than 20%). This all assumes that the cost of the ROO would be the same as the AA will be.

The reality of this situation is this: Most shareholders in ERHE speculate that the share price for ERHE will skyrocket from this lowly .12 range (once we have proven oil) anywhere from $1 to $10 in fairly short order. For us, YES, we would all want to get to that proven oil sooner rather than later because we are talking about 1000%’s increases in our investment that we would like to have now. Count me in. I want it all now!

But the long term financial analysis for a business is very different and they are the one’s making the decisions.

One day our ship will come in. We just need to wait a little bit longer.....

GLTA