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DARBES

06/29/04 8:56 AM

#38974 RE: BUGGI1000 #38973

$16 in the pre eom
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jhalada

06/29/04 9:00 AM

#38975 RE: BUGGI1000 #38973

Buggi,

The Nocona release is Workstation only, Servers will be available "soon" according to Intel. There were vendors listed who will be coming out with workstations, there was no such list for servers:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20040628comp.htm?iid=HPAGE+low_news_040628&
Dell press release mentions only workstations:
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040628/285207_1.html

Joe
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KeithDust2000

06/29/04 9:18 AM

#38977 RE: BUGGI1000 #38973

BUGGI, Dell´s own website highlights their position and the progress pretty well.

February 2004:

KEVIN ROLLINS: We have stuck to Intel and not used an AMD or other chip to date, but we do use
Microsoft and Linux extensively. In fact, we are the number one provider of Linux on servers today -
probably not well-known but a fact. We’re into any open source or low cost technology that a customer
will want.
When it comes to the AMD chip, if you look at the corporate market, which is where 85 of our business
is today, the corporate user has not yet found confidence in AMD and so most of the corporations, 99
percent of them, don't use that technology today, they use Intel. Where AMD has gained good foothold
is in the consumer space, so you'll find them in all your retail outlets, but that has not been the primary
focus of Dell strategically and so we have not gone to AMD.
I will say, however, that we test every AMD product in our labs. We look at the viability of the product in
terms of quality, stability and the ability to ramp volume. Then lastly we look at the economics, do we
want to do it, does it make more money than not. To date, that equation hasn’t led us to AMD, but we
look at it every time and the most recent run with both Athlon and Opteron chips have been better than
anything we've seen them do before.
We never say never, but to date it hasn't made a lot of sense.


http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/corporate/speeches/kbr/2004_02_18_uchicago.pdf

April 2004:

KEVIN ROLLINS: We believe in open standards and we believe that customers are the ultimate
deciders of the technologies that will win. And so subsequently customers have expressed great
interest in Linux as well as in Microsoft. We are not a UNIX advocate. We believe that Linux and
Microsoft over time will erode, as they have been now for some time, the whole UNIX base and
infrastructure. UNIX is not going to go away, but we believe it's going to continue to shrink. And so we
provide our customers with solutions surrounding both of those operating system platforms.
To date we are still fundamentally an Intel shop. We evaluate AMD products on a regular basis. They
have some very good products. Most recently we've kind of gotten closer to evaluating and assessing
and understanding Opteron/Athlon products. I've not moved toward using those in our technologies yet,
but they get better every day. And as customers demand some of those products, then we move our
strategies based on customer desire, customer need and obviously overall economics.


http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/corporate/speeches/kbr/2004_04_28_ncsa.pdf

I think it´s quite simple: As soon as it makes economic sense for them to jump on board, they will do it. If I was in charge, I´d introduce both a 1U and 2U 2-way server and take over the No.1 spot in the Opteron market in 2-3 quarters. Let´s see what happens, and when :)

The competition has only just started shipping in volume.





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sgolds

06/29/04 10:50 AM

#38990 RE: BUGGI1000 #38973

BUGGI, that is the most serious Dell rumor I've heard since the early Athlon days! Must be negotiation time for Dell and Intel. That's what happened last time Dell prototyped AMD PCs.

Having been through this before, I'll take a wait & see attitude.