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SA12

12/03/08 12:04 PM

#4596 RE: sunset01 #4595

Agreed. Shorts were just anticipating...

...what longs would do - sell. There are waaaay more longs than there are shorts (at the highest leves there were about 4 million shares short vs. 37 million shares long that means 9x longs to shorts), they have the control and it is when they buy or, in this case, sell that the stock really makes its move.

Also, the specialist is not acting in unison with anyone. The trading in this stock is way too thin for it to be worth his while to risk bankruptcy and prison in an environment where such activities are easily ferreted out. Remember the specialist makes his money on volume and volatility (which results in wider spreads) than on any movement in the stock price. Up or down, he doesn't care.

The failure of this stock is directly due to management. It sold investors a huge bag of goods that turned out to be a pile of crap. Investors should sue, if there was anything recoverable, because it's clear Lynn lied for years, in my opinion. Add that to incredible mismangement - a tiny company diversifying into unrelated, capital intensive markets while also ramping up huge G&A expenses in the absence of cash generation? don't need an MBA to tell you what a bad idea that is - and eventual failure was obvious.





As always, just one man's opinion.

geoscience2

12/03/08 12:23 PM

#4597 RE: sunset01 #4595

Good points!I was just making the point the shorts "played" the TIV "game" perfectly and got rewarded handsomely for the risks they took. Their risks of course were betting millions of dollars that TIV and its management team could never deliver the "goods" (i.e. big production) the CEO repeatedly touted in PR's for many years. And in the end, they were right.

Geo

jimbonano

12/05/08 8:28 AM

#4603 RE: sunset01 #4595

I would question both of these ideas as the exclusive reason for TIV's PPS slide.

The barrel price and OPEC productions have harmed the PPS of many oil stocks - (also we need to factor in the market's big correction in general)

To blame TIV's tumble on hype, management, or shorters (which all may contribute to some extent) may not be looking at the whole picture and taking in all the factors, IMO.

jonesieatl

12/07/08 9:39 AM

#4606 RE: sunset01 #4595

"$45 in '05" to $1.88 in '08?

Probably won't see a buck oh eight on '08 though.

About due for a 'nothing adverse to the Company’s operations has occurred to justify the drop in its stock price' letter?

Tom Cunningham is looking like a genius for leaving, exercising his options, and selling. Shorts are looking like geniuses for selling all those shares to Russell funds at $8.25 and covering much lower. Bell is looking like a genius for leaving while the PPS was still $4 bucks , too bad when he came on board the PPS was over $8 bucks.

"June 21, 2007"
Bakersfield, California - Tri-Valley Corporation (AMEX – TIV) announced today that Robert A. Bell, petroleum engineer, has joined the operating subsidiary, Tri-Valley Oil & Gas Co. as Vice President of Operations"

Why are all the 2008 Press Releases missing from the website? Temporary glitch? Concerns about all the misleading hyping of production rates? They'll probably show up again.

http://www.tri-valleycorp.com/investcenter-pressrelease.html