Good post surfinNj - nice to get an American view as well.! On the big picture, I can see some more MAJOR turbulance ahead until the markets can get a handle on the bailout plan(S). With this kaos and uncertainty the junior markets will feel the longer version of this pain. With this in mind I see no quick fix to the APH situation. IMO there is no way in hell TO can turn this ship around in the current storm. I feel we are more or less going to stay at the level to which people who understand Alda's potential will let it sink. This may turn out to be .15c per/sh, possibly lower if the next bailout gets dragged out too long & with it further errosion of confidence within the investment comunity. Stickly as an APH investor, I am still unsure if I prefer a bailout at this time which may just extend the life cycle of the underpinning problem in the financial sector, or would we prefer to let the chips fall where they may & attempt to pick up the pieces after the quicker demise of the banking system.