Sunspotter, to deny the situation here has changed is insane. I was day-trading this position (and doing quite well) but am now holding with an average of .0101. I seriously doubt that anybody that any of these folks that you are referring to are "stuck on the wrong side of a trade". There is no way that we would yet know the magnitude of the change I think it will be substantial but who really knows? I do however agree with you as to the usefulness of the charts with penny stocks, but if it is a tool that works for them that is great.