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[3xBuBu]

Buffet want to force Fed to pass the bill,
if not he will push the market off the cliff
so where are we now?

Washington Mutual, the nation’s largest savings and loan, agreed Thursday to sell assets and some branches to JPMorgan Chase in a government-brokered deal to rescue the troubled bank, according to people briefed on the deal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/26/business/26wamu.html?hp

[3xBuBu]

Urgent work on $700B bailout plan appears to stall
The day's earlier apparent breakthrough, announced with fanfare at midday, was followed by a White House summit bringing together President Bush, presidential contenders John McCain and Barack Obama, and top congressional leaders. But that meeting, aimed at showing unity in resolving a national financial crisis, broke up with conflicts in plain view.

Inside the session, House Republican leader John Boehner expressed misgivings about the emerging plan and McCain would not commit to supporting it, said people from both parties who were briefed on the exchange. They spoke on condition of anonymity because the session was private.

The earlier agreement by key members of Congress from both parties -- but not top leaders -- would have given the Bush administration just a fraction of the money it wanted up front, subjecting half the $700 billion total to a congressional veto.

But conservatives were still in revolt, balking at the astonishing price tag of the proposal and the hand of government that it would place on private markets.

Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, the top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee, emerged from the White House meeting to say the announced agreement "is obviously no agreement."

One group of House GOP lawmakers circulated an alternative that would put much less focus on a government takeover of failing institutions' sour assets. This proposal would have the government provide insurance to companies that agree to hold frozen assets, rather than have the U.S. purchase the assets.

Rep Eric Cantor, R-Va., said the idea would be to remove the burden of the bailout from taxpayers and place it, over time, on Wall Street instead. The price tag of the administration's plan to bail out tottering financial institutions -- and the federal intrusion into private business matters -- have been major sticking points for many Republican lawmakers.

There is wide agreement the U.S. economy is in peril, with financial institutions going under or near the edge and recession looming along with the resulting layoffs and increased home foreclosures.

There had been hopes for broad agreement, too, on a prescription by now, with a confident White House announcement by the president, McCain, Obama and congressional leaders.

But the best Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell would say afterward was, "It's clear that more progress is needed and we must continue to work together quickly to protect our economy."

Democrat Obama and Republican McCain, who have both sought to distance themselves from the unpopular Bush, sat down with the president at the White House for an hourlong afternoon session that was striking in this brutally partisan season -- but also, according to one participant, "a full-throated discussion." By also including Congress' Democratic and Republican leaders, the meeting gathered nearly all Washington's political power structure at one long table in a small West Wing room.

"All of us around the table ... know we've got to get something done as quickly as possible," Bush told reporters, brought in for only the start of the meeting. Obama and McCain were at distant ends of the oval table, not even in each other's sight lines. Bush, playing host in the middle, was flanked by Congress' two Democratic leaders, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

McCain and Obama later said they both still expected an agreement could be reached.

Under the accord announced hours earlier among key lawmakers, the Treasury secretary would get $250 billion immediately and could have an additional $100 billion if he certified it was needed, an approach designed to give lawmakers a stronger hand in controlling the unprecedented rescue. The government would take equity in companies helped by the bailout and put rules in place to limit excessive compensation of their executives, according to a draft of the outline obtained by The Associated Press.

As negotiations continued Thursday night, Michele Davis, the chief Treasury spokeswoman said, "There are still open issues to be resolved, and we are committed to resolving them."

The plan's centerpiece still is for the government to buy the toxic, mortgage-based assets of shaky financial institutions in a bid to keep them from going under and setting off a cascade of ruinous events, including wiped-out retirement savings, rising home foreclosures, closed businesses, and lost jobs.

Layered over the White House meeting was a complicated web of potential political benefits and consequences for both Obama and McCain.

McCain hoped voters would believe that he rose above politics to wade into successful, nitty-gritty dealmaking at a time of urgent crisis, but he risked being seen instead as either overly impulsive or politically craven, or both. Obama saw a chance to appear presidential and fit for duty, but was also caught off guard strategically by McCain's surprising gamble in saying he was suspending his campaigning and asking to delay Friday night's debate to focus on the crisis.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080925/financial_meltdown.html

[RonnieD]

Let's get this straight.. say you're a homeowner with a WM mortgage.
- you earn wages paid in Federal Reserve Notes (JPM issued monopoly money which costs them nothing to print)
- US Treasury taxes you, so they can pay off their "debt" to the Federal Reserve (JPM), because they "borrowed" at "interest" these FRN's JPM-FED printed for no cost.
- You take what's left, and now pay JPM back their Federal Reserve Notes that they printed for nothing, at interest, so that you can "own" your home.
- Then you pay your state tax, city property tax, water bill, electric bill, oil/gas bill, telecom, car insurance, etc
- go to bed, wake up, do it over.. keep doing it...
while JPM - FED owns it ALL FOR NOTHING.

---------------------- END THE SLAVERY -----------------------

ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE and RETURN to a CONSTITUTIONAL SOUND MONEY SYSTEM.

[3xBuBu]

Shares of Washington Mutual WM slid more than 70% to $0.45 in after hours trading.