Uh-oh Popeye, never thought I'd hear you say that. If that's the case, the next one filing for bankruptcy will be me! Well maybe not quite, but I suppose it is possible that the manipulation can continue indefinitely; some articles I've recently read pretty much say just that. And the central banks and paper players are experts at it. Even David Morgan is wavering a little now. But I still think it'll recover a little, just not as high as I thought it would a couple months ago before the big plunge.