your right perk it has not changed they still do have a ninth edition -but in the last 25 yrs they have revised the standards, one would only hope...lol -etnl will come out of the basement...(these are your words),so how low do you feel etnl will go before coming out of the basement. i ask -i will post this website for you as the sb2form has everything IN WRITING about were the price MAY (the basement)end up. -and again do we have solid news,we have historical prices,but no large partner or private placement OR DO WE,so i post to show you my entry point http://www.sec.gov./Archives/edgar/data/868756/000105291808000038/eisb2jan1508.htm