You are the optimist. Right now we have the same 8-10 jackasses sitting on both sides of the bid/ask list as we did before the 1.5m share changed hands, nothings changed. I would guess that Robinson himself needed to raise $20k and sold a chunck of his position. I don't think he needs to report the sale as a pink stock. I want to buy into the optimism but require any shred of evidence to get there. Going back thru all of Scorzelli's known position they all had lofty title and he produced no results. I really think that it is all about him being able to say, "I am President, CEO of ...." for Pat. Again, any shred of evidence and I am on the band wagon, please, anything. We can't have a bank come in because Western Security Bank of AZ filed a blanket UCC in April 2007 that runs thru March 2012 on all assets. UCC is posted on Yahoo Group site if you want to read it. Calls to them, WSB, have gone unreturned. Pat has told me that he is looking at other vetures, that is why I am suspicious of Fluffy's recommendations. It also tells me that Pat may see the demise of USGA and be preparing to move on. Some of this is my speculation but a lot of it is fact. Do we have any facts on the positive side?