Replies to post #329908 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[ieddyi]

Great post

[fuagf]

you suggest that a marginal tax would destroy the rich ..
heh .. Abe wouldn't agree, i'll bet .. that's hilarious ..

[wall_rus]

Funny.....it seems like no matter how many times this common knowledge gets posted, some want to ignore it.

The richest 10 per cent of adults accounted for 85 per cent of assets. The bottom 50 per cent of the world’s adults owned barely 1 per cent of global wealth.

The population of the super-rich grew 11.3% world-wide, to 94,970. Yet their total wealth grew by an even more astounding 16.8% to $13.1 trillion. That, according to Merrill and Cap Gemini, is “another sign that global wealth is rapidly consolidating among this ultra-wealthy segment.

The wealthy have been doing quite well, thank you. When us "poh folks" complain about not being able to food on the table, we get slammed for being socialists, rich haters and class warfare advocates.

Poor rich people. They are sooooooo picked on. I say, tax them til there is no incentive to earn another billion. The country was doing better when the top tax rate was 90%. Can anyone deny this?

[seabass]

>>>You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.<<<


First off, none of what you posted has anything to do with Abraham Lincoln (see below). Further....why is nuance such an impossible thing to deal with for rightwingers? Real republicans don't seem to have a problem with it but for RW's, it's always one extreme or the other. "Leave Warren Buffet's and Bill Gates' taxes alone or they will be destroyed". And you make these arguments in the face of these "rich" practically begging in public to stop cutting their taxes as they don't need the cuts, nor do they want them. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/103107M.shtml

Do you actually believe that skimming a small percentage off the top of the extreme peak and passing that on as a cut to the lowly consumer would be destructive? Give a $2,000 tax cut to 50,000 West Virginian low to middle income wage earners and I bet at least 10,000 flat screen TV's would be bought. Give the same $100 mil. brake to Gates or Buffet and the net effect is what? A tabloid headline pointing out who is richer than the other?


"Tom Cecil called and asked me about using the "Cannots." This sparked an idea. Over the years other Lincoln Presenters have used these "Cannots," really thinking that Lincoln said them. He did not, even though they are attributed to him." I thought the Web Site could warn the Lincoln Presenters before some "wise" newspaper reporter trips them up. When President Reagan used them, various Lincoln Scholars pointed out his error. The "Sound advise from Abraham Lincoln" was not written by Abraham Lincoln. They were written by Rev. Boetscher about 75 years ago and passed off as Lincoln sayings. They do sound a bit like Lincoln's sayings, and they really expressed some of Lincoln's own sentiments. But they are not by Abraham Lincoln, and are not authentic. You can fool some people all of the time, but let us not fooled by the 9 "Cannots" of Rev. Boetscher.

"The 10 Cannots"
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatreds.
You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away a man's initiative and independence.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.
Written by Rev. Boetscher"

http://www.lincolnpresenters.com/ALPNews.htm