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cats

04/10/04 1:28 AM

#84306 RE: EVO #84305

Excellent post.
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Witchhouse

04/10/04 1:40 AM

#84307 RE: EVO #84305

Great post thanks!!!
In your opinion where do you see GZFX and WNMI going while your still up if you don't mind me asking?
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Buqqq

04/10/04 2:41 AM

#84309 RE: EVO #84305

EVO, Thanks for the wakeup call with such great examples. Time for me to get inline with what works.

Buqqq
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stock_hippie

04/10/04 3:23 AM

#84310 RE: EVO #84305

coolJOB man,whered dat one come from?
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barchart bar stool

04/10/04 9:45 AM

#84314 RE: EVO #84305

great post EVO, thanks for sharing your knowledge
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Omnitrader

04/10/04 11:06 AM

#84319 RE: EVO #84305

this might sound a little harsh. there is no reason or excueses for anyone that is following this board not be green at the end of ever month. thats was an excellent post. well said.

we just had one of the biggest bull runs in pennys last year and just dont understand how people could have lost money last year.


I guess I still have alot work to do. for people that continue to loose money in these markets have 2 choices.

1- quit and face the fact that this not for them or
2- stop trading with real money and go back to paper trading until u know what the heck there doing.

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Susie924

04/10/04 12:54 PM

#84331 RE: EVO #84305

EVO,

I usually don't have the attention span to read such a long post but I'm glad I read yours. It was excellent.

I don't have the time to read all the boards all of the time so it's difficult to consistently make money. I also don't like to put a ton of money into any one stock because of the chance of losing a ton because I can't watch it all day.

My strategy (questionable at best) has been to stick with the penny and subpenny stocks because I could buy more in quantity and if they ran I could make some money.

I have strayed away from this a little bit lately. Back in March Fung_Derf mentioned ARTX to me when it was at about $2.00 I picked up a small quantity only to watch it drop below $2.00 I wasn't planning on this being a quick trade so I held onto it. Well....it has paid off this week.

Also this week I watched BOCX fly. The first day I watched it, it went up and then settled back down to $1.10 I thought about buying some there but didn't because I thought maybe the run was over. It wasn't. It went past $2.00 and then came back down. I bought a small quantity at 1.79 and sold it the next day for 2.55 or 2.57.

After those 2 stocks I started to think to myself. Why am I putting money into the penny and subpenny stocks waiting for a killing? If they are priced that low, there must be a reason. I may not be able to buy as many shares of a stock that is trading at .50 or $1.00 or $2.00 but if I look at the percentage profit instead of the dollar amount I would be much better off.

I hope that what I just posted makes a little bit of sense to people and thanks to you and Omni and all the others for the great posts on IHUB.

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~ Susan ~

04/10/04 1:12 PM

#84333 RE: EVO #84305

Great post EVO....
Just wanted to add to the discusion in offering my own opinion for what its worth. I also do not wish to offend anyone in anyway with my post.

In my observation I think that when new people start reading these boards they percieve that everyone is making lots of money. It is the nature of these boards because most like to post their winnings. When someone does post their loss many times the reader glosses over that post because it is not what they want to hear. And that is human nature. I think this leads some to believe making money in the stock market is easy. For a newbie that's simply not true.

Another percerption I think new people fall into is that every bluesky break should net them 50- 100% or more and that is just one of the reasons why people hang onto the stock when it comes back down after only going up 10%. (People don't want to get out at 10% afterall it is a bluesky break and it's going to fly right?. They reason to themselves that it's just a pull back and time to "load the boat").

It seems to me the greatest struggle for many is when to sell. The subject has come up in many discussions and there have been alot of helpful tips. There is lots of info in the iBox. Regardless, I think there are still many who struggle with this one, big time. It is easy to have a winning trade turn into a losing trade if you do not sell in the green (Been there).

Each day there are oodles of charts that are posted for perusal and thus lots of opportunity to gain experience in recognising good chart patterns for possible trades ,where the break is, resistances etc. Some, but fewer, charts get posted saying "get out here". I am not saying that anyone should be taking people by the hand walking them through every trade and telling them when to get in and out (the info is in the iBox and Omni has walked us through before. He also continuously reiterates "sell 1/2"). All that I am saying is that I think when a winning trade turns into a losing trade it has to do with lack of experience in knowing when to get out (It can and probably also includes emotion and perception because people tend to see what they want to see).

In ending, a few of my thoughts/suggestions that may or may not help. Learn to trade well first. Don't trade because you want to make the big bucks overnight (contrary to popular perception not everyone on the BB boards are getting filthy rich). You cannot learn to read charts overnight so resign yourself to this fact and study long and hard. Include intraday charts, patterns, basic candles, indicators, sell signals and study level II etc, etc. (Links are provided in the iBox).

When I get home from work and I start reading through all the posts, what I do is for every symbol that comes up during the day I pull up the charts (all time frames) and study them to see what they did. This lets me see where and when the trade went wrong or right. Study, study, study everything and anything you can get your hands on there is so much to learn.

It all takes time. Some will learn faster than others. I tend to be a bit slower with some of this stuff and find I have to spend way more time at it than others but that's fine because I see progress everyday (I'm not filthy rich yet though).

Remember you have to sell to keep green and don't believe every trade is going to net you >50%.
Don't even believe you will make money on every trade. The idea is to make more than you lose. And you will lose.
Learn the selling signals because very few are going to post "get out now". You can be a good stock picker but you also have to be a good stock seller.
Ask questions.

I tend to think that people are not making money because they are not recognising when to get out and/or they are believing that the stock is going to go so much higher (therefore their winner turns into a loser and then comes the wedding bells). I could be dead wrong but that's just my thought.

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EVO

04/10/04 4:07 PM

#84362 RE: EVO #84305

BTW: sorry for all my spelling erros/mistakes in the post if there were any I was typing this up at 12 AM in the morning.


I will also repost my post sometime Monday for those that might have missed it because they were away for the holiday weekend.

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rjacob

04/10/04 6:35 PM

#84376 RE: EVO #84305

im gonna take advantage of happy hour and say wow Evo, i am impressed with your post.
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STOCKFREAK1

04/10/04 7:02 PM

#84379 RE: EVO #84305

awesome post evo.. should go into keepers.
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fusionz

04/10/04 7:51 PM

#84386 RE: EVO #84305

Also I have to comment that not everyone should play these penny stocks. In my opinion, higher-priced stocks with volality such as MAMA, IPIX, ESMC, MAGS are just as good and especially can give good returns with margin. Not to mention that you don't have to worry very much about getting filled or wide spreads.
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LATINO

04/10/04 10:34 PM

#84397 RE: EVO #84305

EVO Great post from a person young in age, but mature enough to see the light ,great post sir. I take of my hat >:~)