Replies to post #2320 on GUNS/BARMS (GUNS)

[Phil(Hot Rod Chevy)]

PW,

Can anyone think of a movie (A Western would be better than a crime drama, which I seldom watch.) where these guns appear? Or better yet, where one is shown being used. (close up, not some guy on top of a mountain)

In almost all western films, a single action revolver is the gun used. In almost all cases it is the .45 Colt.

There are a lot of later variations.

In "Dirty Harry", Clint Eastwood used a revolver in caliber .44 magnum. One of the most powerful of all handguns.

I carry a .40 s&w. Made from a 9mm expanded to 10mm, or close.

But in a semi automatic.

The difference?

Most revolvers hold five or six shells.

Most semi autos hold more.

Have fun,
Phil

[gp100357]

PMS Witch -

A Revolver:



(And not just ANY Revolver - but a GP100357 revolver!)


A semi-automatic pistol:



In a nutshell:

You can see a big difference in design. The revolver, on top, functions when the operator pulls the trigger, which in turn "cocks" the hammer (pushes it rearward, against a strong spring, building up energy). Simultaneously, the pulling of the trigger rotates the cylinder (the round, cylindrical shaped part roughly in the middle of the firearm, into which the ammunition is inserted prior to use) thereby rotating a fresh unfired cartridge to the point directly in front of the hammer. the continued pull of the trigger will release the hammer, suddenly, and the hammer springs forward, striking the firing pin and causing it in turn to move forward rapidly and with force into the cartridge, which triggers the powder in the cartridge. The resulting rapid buildup of energy then fires the bullet (the "nose" of the cartridge) through the barrel, and toward the target.

The semi-automatic pistol has a trigger and hammer also, and they work together very much like the revolver, however the semi-auto has no cylinder - instead the ammunition is stored in a magazine, which is inserted up, into the "pistol grip" section of the firearm. The pulling of the trigger works the hammer which strikes the pin, and fires the cartridge. However the semi auto uses some of the energy produced by the explosion of the powwder to 'automatically' push the hammer back into the 'cocked' position, eject the fired cartridge, and load another fresh one from the magazine into position in the chamber, where the now cocked hammer can push the firing pin into it the next time the operator pulls the trigger. This automatic ejection and reloading is what gives the pistol its name.

These semi-automatic pistols are capable of carrying more rounds (up to 15 or 16, maybe 30, depending on the magazine) than a revolver (7 at most, usually six, or even five for the smaller models favored by many for concealed carry).

Now I hope I haven't bored you - obviously I love talking this shop talk, and may get carried away sometimes. But, if I helped you understand a bit, then I have accompished my mission.

Thanks for indulging me.

GP100357

[ONEBGG]

PW...If not a revolver, it could have been a semi-auto, short for auto-loader, as a revolver requires the cylinder with the ammo to turn in order to chamber a round. The semi-auto has a magazine which allows the gun to automatically re-chamber a round after one is discharged, or it can chamber one when the gun is cocked by 'racking the slide' (pulling back on the slide & cocking the weapon as well as loading a round into the chamber).

I agree the reporter might not have known what he was talking about and alluded to this in my post, on this we agree.

Yes, this is where the saying going off half-cocked comes from IMO. Half-cocked can be different on different guns, on some it is a safety and on others it can be "Cocked & Locked" as in a "Single Action" semi auto such as the .45 Colt 1911.

NOTE: Please correct me if I'm wrong! .45's are not my specialty, I really don't have a specialty! Therefore I am ready for all correction and education on these matters.

Yes, Dirty Harry used a revolver, a 44 Magnum Revolver. The .45's are both used in revolver & semi-auto pistols. There are many different .45 caliber cartridges in the world, although the most common are .45 LC 'Long Colt', a 'rimmed' revolver round, and the .45 AC 'Auto-Colt' a 'rimless' round designed for semi-auto use.







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[ONEBGG]

PMS...Most all westerns have revolvers in them, both Single Action and Double Action. "The Sootiest" Starring John Wayne will give you a good look. If my memory serves me right he takes Ron Howard out for a shooting lesson. I'm not sure, but I think "Richard Boone" is carrying one of the newer 'Semi-Auto's' in the movie.

Either way, one of the things I was questioning was the fact the man sitting on the cushion would pull the trigger. As the weapon would have to not only be cocked, but the cushion would have to pull the trigger 'Inside' the trigger guard while not moving the whole gun. It would require something holding the gun still while pulling or pushing the trigger. It sounds suspicious to me. Or perhaps, it as just bad reporting by a bad writer.



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