Replies to post #39566 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[thepennyking]

(1) Which of the two sovereigns is imbued
with the Moral law? (Neither
(2) Which of the two generals has most ability?Neither
(3) With whom lie the advantages derived from Heaven
and Earth?Neither
(4) On which side is discipline most rigorously enforced?Neither
(5) Which army is stronger?Neither
(6) On which side are officers and men more highly trained?Neither
(7) In which army is there the greater constancy
both in reward and punishment?Neither

14. By means of these seven considerations I can
forecast victory or defeat.Neither

[thepennyking]

18. All warfare is based on deception.

The whole world has been deceived no doubt!

[thepennyking]

19. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable;
when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we
are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away;
when far away, we must make him believe we are near.

Looks like the other side has this down pat...

[thepennyking]

22. If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to
irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.

Bush doesn't have a humble bone in his body...must be all that cocaine he snorted when he went AWOL...

[thepennyking]

26. Now the general who wins a battle makes many
calculations in his temple ere the battle is fought.
The general who loses a battle makes but few
calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations
lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat:
how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention
to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose.


Bush has failed this test as Commander in Chief...

[thepennyking]

6. Therefore the skillful leader subdues the enemy's
troops without any fighting; he captures their cities
without laying siege to them; he overthrows their kingdom
without lengthy operations in the field.

Looks like Bush flunked this one too...

[thepennyking]

1. Sun Tzu said: In the operations of war,
where there are in the field a thousand swift chariots,
as many heavy chariots, and a hundred thousand
mail-clad soldiers, with provisions enough to carry them
a thousand li, the expenditure at home and at the front,
including entertainment of guests, small items such as
glue and paint, and sums spent on chariots and armor,
will reach the total of a thousand ounces of silver per day.
Such is the cost of raising an army of 100,000 men.

War was much cheaper 5,000 years ago. Try $1 billion a day for 135,000 troops in Iraq which doesn't include life insurance claims for dead bodies and medical costs for those permanently injured for the rest of their lives...

[thepennyking]

2. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory
is long in coming, then men's weapons will grow dull and
their ardor will be damped. If you lay siege to a town,
you will exhaust your strength.

3. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources
of the State will not be equal to the strain.

4. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped,
your strength exhausted and your treasure spent,
other chieftains will spring up to take advantage
of your extremity. Then no man, however wise,
will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue.

A billion Muslim's knew this...Bush didn't obviously.

The Islamic people have been fighting wars for 50 centuries longer than the United States.

[thepennyking]

It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted
with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand
the profitable way of carrying it on.

Flunk again Bush...

Time to go back to War School...

[thepennyking]

the proximity of an army causes prices to go up; and high prices cause the people's substance to be drained away.

Must be true...gas prices higher than ever...bread and milk prices higher than ever....real estate prices higher than ever...what good are low interest rates when the cost of everything is skyrocketing because of war?

[thepennyking]

In war, then, let your great object be victory, not lengthy campaigns.

Flunk again Bush...Mission Accomplished? Not....your foot is in the desert quicksand and you don't know how to get it out, but if you call off your dogs and work with the wise, perhaps you will be able to extricate yourself, but for now, your house is on fire and you lit the match....and you insist in pouring more gasoline on it while the public protests have really yet to begin...they won't complain till gas hits $3.00 per gallon...then the mobs will character assasinate you with their votes as is their right....just as you have tried to character assisinate anyone who disagrees with you...you are the largest coward in American history and so is your father and your grandfather...

RIP!

[thepennyking]

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will
succumb in every battle.

Bush may think he knows himself but he does not know the enemy...this he has already admitted publicly by stating He was "not aware of the threat of Al Queda before 911".... and based on that alone the US should never have invaded Iraq for he did not even know his enemy there as evidenced by the lack of WMD to date...

Blaming faulty intelligence is no excuse for not knowing your enemy prior to engaging in battle...the public knows this.

[thepennyking]

The general who is skilled in defense hides in the
most secret recesses of the earth; he who is skilled in
attack flashes forth from the topmost heights of heaven.
Thus on the one hand we have ability to protect ourselves;
on the other, a victory that is complete.

Bush, you cannot hide from your mistakes... fess up and tell the truth...you messed up Dude...go back to your ranch with your phony hat and boots and live in the dirt and shame that you have wrought upon this world...

[thepennyking]

The end and aim of spying in all its five varieties
is knowledge of the enemy; and this knowledge can only
be derived, in the first instance, from the converted spy.
Hence it is essential that the converted spy be treated
with the utmost liberality.

You blew it at Gitmo Bush...now what? Look at you now! You are a farce...you should have listened but you were too arrogant...your closest friends are now becoming your worst nightmare....