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03/04/08 2:13 PM

#67178 RE: spokeshave #67177

awesome ibox material!!!!

ShysterChaser

03/04/08 2:16 PM

#67180 RE: spokeshave #67177

Great post, Tim! Gives anyone, including the perky Ms. 'leeza, mileposts and data to publish/broadcast an expose on what appears to be nothing more than a very successful, clever investment game!

Da Boyz are professionals at whatever they are doing.

If you visit Tucson, rumor has it that Ray-Ray has built a new, beautiful multi-million bux mansion. Hey, the $90,000,000 went somewhere. Wonder if it is equipped with wheelchair-accessible ramps so big loss' disabled friend could visit his money in sunny southern Arizona!

Do your own due diligence, but what Tim has posted and updated should give everybody a fair warning. All IMHO.

foreontee

03/04/08 3:02 PM

#67183 RE: spokeshave #67177

Spokeshave,, mind if I forward this to CNBC? Great Info.

WHP03

03/04/08 3:32 PM

#67188 RE: spokeshave #67177

A good summary for the writer in Portland to work from, if she didn't already have all the background. It should be forwarded her way.

ophelia

03/04/08 3:34 PM

#67189 RE: spokeshave #67177

The real story here, despite everything you cite being true, is how does this obvious 9 year old scam continue to survive? Not only to survive but to raise large sums of money almost at will? That is what I find fascinating. Sure, they can fire up the printing press and print millions of shares, but eventually some poor retail investor has to write a check.

excel

03/04/08 8:20 PM

#67202 RE: spokeshave #67177

HOwever, from what I have heard, Ray's ego was up to the task. They somehow finagled Lucent into doing a test and releasing the "results". The PRs were stunning - Lucent had verified that this technology worked as advertised.

Yes, results were released but Lucent wouldn't let them use their name in a PR. Only way it was verified that Lucent tested anything was in the filing they were able to use their name. Also like all the other tests no specs were given under what kind of conditions it was tested just general terms which experts say doesn't allow anyone to truly know what was going on.

Also, if people remember the Lucent test was delayed for quite some time. They put out a PR stating it was because they had found new enhancements to the tech. Sold more shares!
That enhancement PR was a LIE! BIG LIE!

John Howell made the mistake of telling me the TRUTH about that when we met up down in Oregon. Big mistake Johnny boy!
The TRUTH was one of the engineers freaked out and took off because he couldn't get the concept to work for testing.
Had zip to do with enhancements.