nwsun: fair enough, but you have to realize how petty you came off attacking a link that was mainly pictures and captions? How can a serious dialogue carry on when stuff like that happens. I am looking at a bigger picture. Now's a great time to see the manipulations that go on every day. Election time is when they are most exposed.
BTW, I didn't call you a neo-con. I got your attention with the comparison, though.