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relax6

02/02/08 10:48 AM

#114744 RE: ajtj99 #114742

agree!

moves tend to last 30-45 days, at least something i have been noticing

october 11 down for about 45 days until november 26

november 26 up 30 days until december 26 , which marked a top

december 11 down about 45 days for the jan bottom

so this move up should last until feb 23 or march 10

I actually favour march 10 as that marks the 5 year point since the important march 2003 bottom

we all remember the significance of the 5 year point from the october 2002 bottom - it was a high

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anyer1

02/03/08 1:54 PM

#114760 RE: ajtj99 #114742

US dollar comments:

MARC FABER: Well, basically, I agree with Michael and I think that if you buy today at 10 years the US Treasury, or 30 year US Treasury, you’re flirting with disaster because they will only perform well in an environment of total deflation, given the low yields they provide at the present time. But as I said, the concept of inflation and deflation is very complex because you can have an economic system where some assets are inflating and some assets are deflating. Like in the US, say in the last 12 months, you would have been better off in US Treasuries than say in the housing market, which has declined in value. So in general, I of course agree with Michael to be in stocks in the long run and to be in precious metals and in energy in the long run and so forth. I’m not sure whether that is the right medicine for, say, the next three to six months. I mean I’m very cash rich here. I’m cash rich US dollars. I think the US dollar does not have a significant downside risk against the euro. In other words, if you put a gun on my head and said, “Marc, you have to choose one currency today, for the next three months: the euro or the US dollar,” I think I would choose the US dollar. Although, I’m very negative about the US dollar in the very long run. But just for the next three months I think the dollar will hold because the current account deficit is now shrinking, the trade deficit is no longer expanding and so forth and so on; and the dollar is relatively inexpensive vis a vis the euro. Would the question be: put all your money into US dollars cash, or put all of your money in gold? As of today, that would be a very tough question because the gold market in my opinion is now somewhat overbought and could undergo easily a 10 to 20% correction. [47:59]


http://www.financialsense.com/transcriptions/2008/0112.html

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sylvester80

02/03/08 4:18 PM

#114763 RE: ajtj99 #114742

NEWS: U.S. Dollar Bears Turning Into Bulls; Bernanke Ease Makes Bulls out of Dollar Bears Seeing New Growth

By Bo Nielsen
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&refer=home&sid=ahDiVVyeilGY

Feb. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Ben S. Bernanke's decision to lower interest rates 1.25 percentage points last month will end the dollar's two-year slide, according to the world's biggest currency traders.

For the first time since 2003, investors are focused on relative growth prospects rather than absolute borrowing costs, according to Geoffrey Yu, a London-based strategist with UBS AG, the No. 2 trader. The steepest cuts by a Federal Reserve chairman in seven years will support economic growth in the U.S. as Europe slows, said BNP Paribas SA, the most accurate currency forecaster Bloomberg tracks. The dollar will gain at least 9 percent against the euro this year, UBS and BNP predict.

``We're not chasing dollar weakness any lower,'' said Robert Robis, a fixed-income manager in New York at OppenheimerFunds Inc., which oversees $260 billion. ``The Fed's actions have avoided a long recession and we may start to see a recovery later this year.''

Robis has reduced the share of euro-denominated assets versus those linked to the dollar in his $9 billion portfolio. It now holds less than the benchmark index because he expects the U.S. currency to outperform. As recently as November, he was ``overweight'' the euro against the dollar.

Futures traders cut the value of contracts benefiting from a drop in the dollar to $13.9 billion as of Jan. 29, according to Charlotte, North Carolina-based Bank of America Corp., the second-largest U.S. bank by assets. That's down from a record $32.3 billion in November.

Yield Advantage

The dollar has gained 1.1 percent versus the euro to $1.4802 since sinking to an all-time low of $1.4967 on Nov. 23. The currency appreciated even as the yield advantage on a two- year German bund more than doubled to 1.3 percentage points over a comparable Treasury note, making bunds more appealing to international investors. The last time the spread was so large was 2002, when the euro surged 18 percent against the dollar.

Paris-based BNP, the most accurate of 31 firms surveyed about their currency predictions for the second half of 2007, is among the most bullish on the dollar in 2008 with its forecast of $1.36 per euro by yearend. Zurich-based UBS predicts $1.35. The median estimate calls for a 5.4 percent increase to $1.40 by the end of this year and a 6 percent gain to $1.32 in 2009. The dollar weakened 10.6 percent in 2007 and 11.4 percent in 2006 after strengthening 12.6 percent in 2005.

Fed Versus ECB

While two Fed cuts slashed the target rate for overnight loans between banks to 3 percent in nine days, the European Central Bank kept its benchmark rate unchanged at a seven-year high of 4 percent in an attempt to curb inflation. The ECB will keep rates unchanged at its Feb. 7 meeting, according to all 55 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News.

``If aggressive cuts by the Fed can stimulate the economy, then the U.S. will definitely lead the way in terms of economic recovery,'' Yu said. ``The ECB is behind the curve, so it's time to move back'' into the dollar, he said.

Deutsche Bank AG, the world's largest currency trader, predicts an 8 percent gain in the dollar this year as the euro- zone economy expands 1.6 percent, lagging behind the 1.9 percent growth projected for the U.S. For 2009, Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank puts growth at 2.6 percent in the U.S. and 1.9 percent in Europe.

Maxime Tessier, head of foreign exchange at Caisse de Depot et Placement in Montreal, isn't counting on Bernanke. It may be too late for lower borrowing costs to keep the U.S. out of a recession, he said. The Labor Department said Feb. 1 that payrolls fell by 17,000 in January, the first decline since August 2003.

2001 Reprisal

``From our vantage point it doesn't look very good and every week we re-evaluate the U.S. economy, it has deteriorated,'' said Tessier, whose firm manages $143 billion. ``It's too early to position your portfolio for a dollar rebound because a month from now the currency could be in rally mode, but it could also be a lot lower.''

The U.S. is entering the ``worst consumer recession since 1980,'' and the dollar will fall to $1.57 by the end of March before recovering to its current $1.48 by yearend, according to David Rosenberg, chief economist for North America in New York at Merrill Lynch & Co. The firm is the world's largest brokerage.

The dollar has benefited from Fed rate cuts before. During the first six months of 2001, the currency gained 10 percent against the euro as the central bank slashed its target 2.75 percentage points to below the ECB's benchmark refinance rate following the bursting of the technology bubble.

``We still believe the U.S. promises good returns,'' Sultan bin Sulayem, the chairman of state-owned investment group Dubai World, said Jan. 25 at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. Dubai World agreed in August to invest as much as $5.1 billion in Kirk Kerkorian's Las Vegas-based casino group MGM Mirage.

Foreign Holdings

Middle Eastern and Asian investors have poured up to $39 billion into U.S. banks since August, according to Bloomberg calculations. Foreign holdings of U.S. securities rose a net $149.9 billion in November, the most in 22 months, the Treasury Department said last month in Washington. In October, the gain was $92.2 billion.

Investors say there are encouraging signs that business investment will hold up. Last week the House and Senate Finance Committees approved a fiscal stimulus package of as much as $157 billion proposed by President George W. Bush. The same day the Labor Department said the economy was shedding jobs, the Institute for Supply Management said its manufacturing index rose in January.

``A lot of the people are finding this is a good time to get back in the dollar,'' said Scott Ainsbury, a money manager who helps oversee $12 billion in currencies at FX Concepts Inc., a New York-based hedge fund.

To contact the reporters on this story: Bo Nielsen in New York at bnielsen4@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: February 3, 2008 10:49 EST