Surfca and Hitmer- In talking with people here in Diego, the overall consensus is a negative one. I have personally talked with several individuals who are well known and respected business people who are now voicing their opinions in a negative light relative to NV. These individuals are not recommending this stock to anyone as far as I know. We have all conversed with both Ray and John quite a bit in the past via lunch meetings and mainly e-mails. The problem is, as you know, is nothing ever comes to pass. All I can say is if NV has something of value, they had better get it out real quick!. People are slowly but surely losing interest. Surfca, whats your e-mail- I'll give you my phone #- Talk?-Surf to Surf....