Replies to post #303777 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[brainlessone]

Reality -- the military forces of the USA, NATO, Turkey, SA,

and, being trained and equipped, are about 500 thousand Iraqi military forces

are allied to stop these fanatics by killing or jailing them

and I think about 50 years of killing the leaders that expose themselves

ought to see secular democracies all through the ME


what does this mean can you rephrase this

[sortagreen]

Reality -- 60% of Iraqis approve killing US soldiers -- check

Reality -- 99% of muslim religious leaders approve killing all Americans

Reality -- 99% of muslims approve killing all jews


Reality -- the military forces of the USA, NATO, Turkey, SA,

and, being trained and equipped, are about 500 thousand Iraqi military forces

are allied to stop these fanatics by killing or jailing them

and I think about 50 years of killing the leaders that expose themselves

ought to see secular democracies all through the ME

Just a couple of random thoughts (look that word up)

1. Are these Iraqis among the 1% that doesn't want to kill Jews? Are the Turks and Egyptians in that 1% too? How about the Saudis, Pakistanis and Indonesians? Do they all follow that 1% of the religious leaders that don't want to kill all Americans

2. Is it true that 84% of all statistics are just made up on the spot?

3. What secular Democracies do we currently support in the Middle East? What about our allies in the UAE and Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and Egypt and Pakistan? How about all the little 'stans? What happened to the secular Democracy the Iranians had back in the early 50s?

the fight will go on as the Islamofacists intend to win

Them we can handle. I'm more worried about you winning.

[seabass]

>>>in an alliance to stop these fanatics by killing or jailing them<<<


Didn't do the math did you? 60% of roughly 20 million Iraqis remaining in the country adds up to 4 million Iraqis who root for the death of US troops. So the plan is to jail or kill 4 million Iraqis who either want to kill US troops or support those who do?


>>>ought to see secular democracies all through the ME<<<


A little surprised to see you walk down this dead end street with me....again. But since you are.....I'll repeat: If democracy was the cure for terrorism, how do you explain the 19 hijackers of 9/11 - most of whom had lived in western Europe or the US for years prior to the attack, tasting democracy at its best every day.

Or better yet......the busted 2006 plot to blow up airliners flying from the UK to the US. Most of the "Islamo faschists" involved in that attack were born and raised in democratic United Kingdom.

"The key suspects are reported to be British-born Muslims,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_transatlantic_aircraft_plot


Are you big enough to admit that this invalidates both yours and George Bush's argument that terrorists will no longer be terrorists if you allow them to exist under democratic rule?