thanks the comp daily is a nice chart. I have forgotten about Mr. New. He also has a membership program. MVP will look into that. Ah so so so much to look at. Isn't a simple approach or as TB says brain dead, which I wonder if his really is? Looks we have some bottoms in the indexes now. Oh ya what is that hourly slow stoc you like. LC has a nice 30min program for all to see. sb ***Z1***** SHORT TERM DOW ****** by Kurt W. Brauchli at stockcharts has the swing charts I like page 5.