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pinkster

11/11/07 8:06 AM

#30653 RE: learningboutinv #30651

There are people who fall through the cracks in this great health care system, and I bet some of them work 2 or even 3 jobs. Try being a single woman with children and paying for health care for your family-it's quite a pinch out of the average wage earners income. Or just try getting insurance if you've had a chronic illness or cancer.(how many children today have diabetes, asthma, autism, add or other diagnosis?) Or how about the 75 year old on a low fixed income who needs drugs? Or my brother who can't work anymore at the age of 48 due to a serious disability and relies on social security-over 50% of his very small goverment handout goes to pay for "medically necessary" DRUGS, and he HAS the Medicare pharmacy supplemental policy. The healthcare system has bankrupted many hard working families-in what other country is that the case? To call them whiners---does that mean sweep it under the rug-we don't want to know that some are really suffering and dying in America because of lack of health care? It may be a small percentage who really fall through the cracks, but how many are the "haves" willing to accept?

Below are the quotes I got today for a perfectly healthy single female with no dependents-in other words the cheapest policies because of perfect health, and no coverage for children. I'd still rather be in America than Iraq, but the answer doesn't lie either in "free" health care or the current policy. It will require a change in all of us-back to healthy eating and less stressful lifestyles. Only that will bring the insurance premiums back down to affordable for ALL Americans.

It's a great discussion and both sides make valid points, but could we refrain from calling the "have nots" lazy whiners who make excuses?

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sammy1024

11/11/07 9:26 AM

#30655 RE: learningboutinv #30651

i saw a tv report with people who have healthcare but were dropped when they have were diagnosed with cancer. there needs to be a fix. 47 million people don't have healthcare. 17-20 percent of the population have no healthcare. the system needs to be fixed.

FreeMarkets

11/11/07 2:53 PM

#30678 RE: learningboutinv #30651

I agree with you. John Stossel has reported on this intelligently and at length. We need more market and less government, not the other way around. The issue is getting people access to health care rather than just getting people covered by insurance. Poor people are already covered. By the way, we have the richest poor people in the world.

Just as in the stock market, the laws of supply and demand can not be broken. Those on the left are ignorant of these laws and end up hurting the very people they try to help. I should know, I used to be one of them. Thank God for Adam Smith and the rational study of economics.