meatball The talk was pretty much just casual conversation about what was desired and where the company wanted to go. Al;so who knew who in the area so did develope a sense of familiarity. I am sure that he was initially just as skeptical of my intentions, given all the negativity latley. you know he was not going to say anything more than you may find in the press releases. it was for me though an opportunity to get a feel for the sincerety and concern of the folks involved. I can say that i did see a set of prints on the desk that appeared to be the layout of the refinery equipment. I will try to arrange a decent video sometime in the coming weeks complete with interviews and walkhroughs when the work is further underway!