Replies to post #8943 on Intel Corp (INTC)

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Duke of Earl Itanium will never recoup costs, Opteron will.

Just like every other post you've ever made on this board... you just keep saying it, but not backing it up with any data. Do you honestly believe that if you say something enough times it makes it true??? In proper debate, the presenter makes a point then backs it up with data. You've never even attempted to back this point up with data, therefore I must conclude that you're trolling.

You seem to try to talk about Xeon but you fail to address the failure that is Itanium, or as I like to refer to it, "The pipe dream scheme".

Xeon has been huge - and if anything I think Intel *underestimated* how successful it would be.

As to "the pipe dream scheme" - I've never heard you use that term before... let's see where this goes.

Pipe Dream Scheme involved Intel putting AMD out of business by bringing Itanium to the masses, away from X86.

All evidence out there points to the contrary. Itanium is, was, and forever will be focused on that top 10% of the CPU market that represents 30 to 50% of total CPU revenue (depending on which numbers you believe). You need to prove your point here before attempting to build a case on it. You, per normal, provide no data to back up this assertion.

As far as 75 biilion is concerned I think you need to revist your numbers or clarify how many years you are talking about because that number is laughable. he big iron market is high end servers and there are not 75 billion a year spent on high end servers.

I'm sure someone who has the industry numbers can settle this one quickly. I don't know the exact values, but I have seen the graph. I don't know if $75B is right or wrong, but I do know that the 10% niche that Intel is targeting with Itanium makes up a WHOLE lot more than 10% of the revenue. (Can anyone with that graph settle this one quickly?)

is a niche product that will never recoup costs and never will generate a billion in a year of revenue.

Oooh... prediction made - bookmark this one.

it appears you are the one who likes stretching the truth and maybe your name should be DukeofIntelFanBoys. And I sincerly mean that.

All personal attacks aside - Duke's post, though light in some areas, contained better data than all of the posts you've ever made on this board taken together. This isn't a forum to "preach the gospel" of any particular point of view. It's a discussion / debate forum. In order to participate in a discussion / debate, you need DATA. You've yet to present one shred of data to back up any of your statements. Furthermore, when someone provides real data that doesn't jive with your world-view, you discount it, call them names, or call them a liar. I'm sorry, but that's NOT the way to make your point.

In internet parialnce, an individual who merely makes inflammatory statements over and over, yet never backs them up is called a "troll". "Trolls" aren't welcome on any discussion forum, and I sincerely hope you start backing up your statements with data and don't fall into the "troll trap" - as I like to refer to it.