hey bike maybe john doesn't want that info out for reasons of that getting into competors hands or someone who can make more trobble than we already got, might be a lot more value around that gold mine than we think, got to make sure all lose ends are tied so there can be no take over or problems, and how can you calulate the production, cost, revs or anything else, till mining starts, also this would of got off the ground a lot sooner if the stock price wasn't taken down, remember the stock crash here.