Replies to post #27010 on SPOOZ Inc (SPZI)

[cwoody]

Wing, maybe I am not following, but is 141 an LLC owned by the principals of Spooz, or is it a division of Spooz? In the statement in Milo's note, it looks like it could be considered as owned by the prinicpals, which would leave the investors out of any potential gains since those gains wouldn't be considered property of Spooz. The only item that would be gained by Spooz would be the revenue generated by the sale of SWARM to 141.

OK, maybe that is a bit pesimistic, but I haven't seen anything which yet says 141 is a wholly owned subsidiary yet. When I see the following: "141 Futures, LLC is a dormant registered Commodity Trading Advisor (CTA) in which I, and other Spooz insiders, have an equity interest.", this leads me to believe that this isn't a part of Spooz.

cwoody

[profcw]

Hi Wing. In order to answer your question re: the potential of SWARM as it impacts the PPS we need to establish the amount of capital the beta results were trading with. You ask what about an amount of 1 mil? We need to agree on what the July 19th posted beta results represent as a dollar profit based upon an amount invested. They refer to single contracts; but no dollar amount is specified. So once we agree on what we can "take away" from those results,I'll be glad to run some numbers for you. (or my grad students who are usually smarter than me anyway will generate something for you) lol
GLTA
profcw

[CapnDon]

Based on the formula someone posted during the flurry of activity after the announcement of the SWARM beta testing (Y = I * (1+x)^n), and assuming the initial seed money was something like $25,000, it was determined that the the 12 day gain was 28%. The above formula extrapolates that. So, using 20%(x) to be conservative and a 12 month period(n), with one million "seed money" (I), it comes out to Y = $8,916,100.45
Don't know if that's helpful or not. Just for fun, I put it in a spreadsheet to see what various investments would yield. Some pretty impressive numbers result.

[ThSeeker]

Wing. From my earlier calculations.
Assumptions if
$1,000,000 seed money (picked this for example only)
28% profits in 12 days.
21.5 = 258/12 trading phases @ 28 % profits

$6 million profit =($1,000,000 x .28 x 21.5 )/ $1,000,000

600% profits/year using $100K for each 12 day trading period

Again without compounding. Just skim the profits each trading period and do it again.

CapnDon est $8.9 million -close although that may include the seed money. So in between that should be a ballpark estimate

ThSeeker