well dben i understand all to well....i have sold all my cane plays other than this one....nsmg wegi addl eegi tooka loss on em all....moved what i had left over to dpdw....best bang for the buck right now...will keep ecci as a lotto cane pick...i still think this has the best chance at a real run out of the cane plays...IF the ceo lays off the drip...