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09/07/07 12:18 PM

#4653 RE: bartermania #4652

ibox/material/edit: "If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive, or retain any title of nobility or honour, or shall without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office, or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them." Clearly, the founding fathers saw such a serious threat in "titles of nobility" and "honors" that anyone receiving them would forfeit their citizenship. Since the government prohibited "titles of nobility" several times over four decades, and went through the amending process (even though "titles of nobility" were already prohibited by the Constitution), it's obvious that the Amendment carried much more significance for our founding fathers than is readily apparent today. (ps. This Amendment appears to have been ratified!!!-bartermania/kdp-) See this link for more: http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13209527

The War of 1812...The so called Civil War, and the conquest of the States that followed:
The king controlled the government by the time the North won the Civil War, through the use of lawyers that called the shots behind the scenes, just as they do now and well placed subjects in the United States government. This would not have been possible if not for England destroying our documents in 1812 and the covering up of state documents of the original 13th Amendment. http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=11851256