Oh GRande25: I dumped the 65,000 in a taxable acct and will be able to write off $7k over a couple of years. The 135,000 i'm still holding is in a ROTH and as you know i can't take a loss in a ROTH unless i sell out the whole acct. That's not something i'd want to do so after fretting over it all for 16 months or so as an original LOFT'y and holding out for audited financials, mega-deals, uplisting to the NASDAQ (yes, Steve PR'd NASDAQ...as best as I can recall), PV putting Consultech into the shell and a turn-around based upon verifiable facts, I've pretty much given up. I'll still hold 50,000 shares and see what happens to them but I don't expect anything other than it going to $0.0001 and no bid. I thought I'd at least walk away with something more than zero for my trouble and drinking the coolaid so I sold some shares. At this point...and much earlier on...I don't believe a word of anything Steve or PV have said or are reported to have said, nada. The and the company has no credibility in the financial markets. They squandered what little they had last Nov. 15th. That is when the last of the smart stockholders got out. This company isn't worth any effort anymore. What do they have on deck that could possibly raise the pps to even $0.01 at this point and why should we settle for that? there are smarter places to risk our investment capital imo.