Jack for most sub-penny OTC stocks I would most definitely agree. The difference between this and some others is the word 'naive'. You were spot on with that one. A lot of investors here got caught up in the PRs and the posts and bought way too early thinking they found the next big thing. This companies' PRs are at least verifiable, but in no way give indication of the direction of the stock when shareholders buy. The filings do, however, for every company required to do so and it usually paints a much different picture with regards to direction. Some naive investors look at a PR, or a messageboard post, or boileroom spam and buy based on that alone. Some naive investors might actually look at the filings but cannot discern them because of the language. This company, however, has been warning investors of the potential losses this stock might incur based on the financing arrangement for this stock since Day 1 and in plain English. Yet, you still have some on this board even now who blame the individual investor and posters for the losses.