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subzero

01/21/04 9:43 PM

#23958 RE: dougSF30 #23956

"The question is: unless a dividend is meaningful, why bother?"

All dividends are meaningful.
Some are more meaningful than others.

So..just what does AMD pay you to hold their stock?

"now that Intel is no longer a growth stock."

AMD lost money for 9 straight quarters - and managed to eke out a measley, paltry $43 million profit in the best quarter for semiconductor manufacturers in over 3 years...and that qualifies AMD is what... a growth stock?


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blauboad

01/21/04 10:23 PM

#23965 RE: dougSF30 #23956

I'm amused that the Intel crowd thinks a miniscule dividend is great news, completely ignoring what that reveals about the future of the stock and the market. Of course, the flip side is that, in a mature market, AMD will have to steal its dinners from Intel, no small task.

I mean, look how much MSFT has skyrocketed since announcing its dividend.

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Mysef

01/21/04 10:38 PM

#23968 RE: dougSF30 #23956

Doug,

this Intel dividend is a joke. It isn't anything more than another giveaway for the select lunch club on the board who gives themselves hundreds of thousands of options every year.

If you want to know why Intel is behind AMD and isn't going to catch up anytime soon, how would you feel as an engineer at Intel watching these old geezers get rich while you are one step away from a bad evaluation because you didn't have a clue one might be coming?

Amazing what AMD has done compared to Intel's finest sitting in their cubicles counting the value of their options. You're seeing it now. I believe Intel's recent problems with Rambus, botched gates, Itanium, etc, are due to management. I bet you if you ask someone in management though what happened, they would say the engineer that screwed it up doesn't work here anymore.

Nothing can compete with an employee that wants to do his job. Too many times AMD has been called a one trick pony. One step away from failure. Well, this motivated one trick pony has Intel looking like it is at a crossroads where maybe it's best engineers are afraid to tell management there is a problem. I imagine Intel's products suck because too many Intel employees are at the point where they have to do their job. The sooner that changes, the better for everyone. Including us shareholders.

Mysef

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Windsock

01/22/04 8:55 AM

#23988 RE: dougSF30 #23956

The question is: unless a dividend is meaningful, why bother?

Some institutions follow a policy of only investing in stocks that pay a dividend. When Intel first started paying a dividend, one of the reasons offered was to become an eligible investvent for these institutions.

Of course you have to actually make money to have the ability to pay a dividend.