Gee - and they said no reverse split before too... and they also said revenues by year's end in .... 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007.... and to date none have hit the books from a commercially viable high-speed communications chip set. So, my hunch is - a reverse split is all but a done deal, in order to keep the game going well into Ray's later years, living the good life on the backs of shareholders.