Hi Samlam. "The best way to show that a stick is crooked is not to argue about it or to spend time denouncing it, but to lay a straight stick alongside it." D. L. Moody --------------------- Now that is ironic. I am under the impression that lying looks for a cloak. I.E- Liberalism. (From you asking me about such a thing). THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME. From a truth/biblical point of view- WE WOULD CALL THEM WRONG/LIARS. From your point of view/Societies point of view where there is no g0D....then right/wrong issues ARE NOT addressed. SO......... THE ONLY TERM/RESULT REMAINING IS: LIBERALISM. ------------------------- My age is both in my name and profile. -------------------------------