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amarksp

01/10/04 10:27 AM

#7224 RE: loantech #7223

Mauldin's prediction is for calendar year 2004, and not beyond. And I agree with Mauldin, consumer debt will not be a problem in 2004..., that anchor merely gets heavier... Like Mauldin, I believe the Fed's next action on rates is DOWN, giving US consumers and da derivative boyz one last chance to refinance/hedge their derivative position once again. Was really surprised Mauldin agrees with my next move down prediction.

Longer term, I believe Dow/Naz start to decline in second half 2004 and this down to sideways movement continues for next several years bringing Dow/Naz to new 5 year lows. That consumer debt anchor will be more evident then..., as well as the US trade and budget deficits... But not material in calendar year 2004 (at least the first half of 2004)...
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FWIW, here is Fleck's roadmap...

By Bill Fleckenstein

With this, the first Contrarian Chronicles of 2004, I want to sketch out a roadmap of how I think events might play out this year.

It's been my experience that having an opinion (and strategy) for what you think may occur will help you to manage your portfolio. Of course, that strategy needs to be tweaked as new data come in.

My opinion is mostly a carry-through from last year. I continue to believe that the stock market, currency market and economy are basically all the same trade, and that the environment in which we live is as binary as any that's ever existed. That is, the market’s up and everyone is partying or down and all hell has broken loose.

Why do I think this? We have folks running the Fed (and the Treasury, for that matter) who are the most incompetent and irresponsible of all time. That's old news, but what's new, in my opinion, is their full-blown display of arrogance. They talk about keeping interest rates low indefinitely, while paying lip service to deflation or disinflation, when the opposite is happening in nearly every commodity market. (Editor’s note: The Commodity Research Bureau index is up about a third since last March.)

They shrug off the decline in the dollar when it's the world's reserve currency (and no longer a monopoly). The Fed and other bulls take foreigners' dollar appetite for granted, in terms of funding our huge current-account deficit, even as our macro position is horrible vis-a-vis our unfunded future liabilities, total debt outstanding and budget deficit.

Oh, those back-slapping central bankers
The fact that the "authorities" were able to produce a sizable stock market rally last year and a strong third-quarter GDP has prompted them to do a little end-zone dancing. Chairman Alan Greenspan's recent talk at the American Economics Association meeting in California was all about declaring victory. In as many words, he said, "So what if I created a bubble and didn't pop it? The recession was painless, and I've orchestrated the next recovery." It's kind of like a kid taunting na-na-na-na-na.

That has further fueled the Fed's arrogance in maintaining that the dollar's collapse doesn't matter. Though it will come to matter, the fact that it has not thus far has emboldened the Fed to believe in its own omnipotence. Once convinced it knew the future, the Fed now appears to realize that it might not know the future, but that doesn't matter, since it thinks it can fix anything. The Fed believes it can make the economy and the stock market do whatever it wants (though I'm sure it had its doubts for a while). Likewise, the Fed believes itself powerful enough to fix the currency market whenever it deems that necessary.

Make no mistake. The Fed does not have this power. Add to this the fact, first, that the "money-management business" (with its plethora of mutual funds, investment counseling firms, and hedge funds) has so many practitioners who've grown up in an era where it's all been about marketing and not risk management, and second, the fact that we have a public that wants to believe it will all be okay -- and you have a recipe for what we now have, which, to repeat, is an incredibly binary situation.

Slam-dunking toward disaster
The Fed, the money-management industry and the public, to some degree, are all in. Folks are either leveraged to the hilt in housing or real estate investments, and/or they are piling into stocks. In both cases, the rationalization is some variation of the greater-fool theory. It's being powered by all the liquidity spewing forth from the Fed, combined with the debt that's been created by the financial system, not least of which comes from the government-sponsored entities Freddie (Mac) and Fannie (Mae). So, we continue to build a bigger and bigger balsawood edifice, which is the current state of our financial markets. And we have this giant anvil dangling from dental floss above the balsawood structure, with the anvil being our burgeoning debt and collapsing currency.

The outcome of this whole tragedy to me is quite clear: I believe that stocks will at some point collapse. Fixed income in all likelihood (though this is less clear to me) will get shredded, thanks to what's going on in the dollar. The dollar will be further bludgeoned, and, I think, metals will go to places we can't even conceive of. What I do not know is the timing of all that. When will stocks start going down? When will the currency decline matter to the fixed-income market? When will the metals really go crazy?

Price as barrier to re-entry
I came into this year with no shorts and just my long positions in metals, metals stocks and Annaly Mortgage. Regrettably, I had reduced my position in foreign currencies before going away on vacation. They are all up smartly, so I have been left a little behind on that trade. I did the same with respect to my trading position in the precious metals. So, while I have the full complement of my position in Newmont Mining and Pan American Silver (the latter of which I am a director), my trading positions in foreign currencies and precious metals have been reduced. With prices having gone basically straight up, it's been hard to add to these trading positions. I am currently wrestling with how much of the present action in these markets is a function of new money, a bit of a mini-blowoff to this piece of the move, or just the start of acceleration to a mini-blowoff.

In order of imperativeness, I am much more eager to expand my position in precious metals and currencies (though my personal stock position in Pan American and Newmont is quite sizable), than I am to get short stocks. As has been the case, I think we'll be making plenty of money being long currencies and precious metals before we make money being short stocks. I've done nothing basically because the environment is so binary (and all these trades are different expressions of the same view) that I feel no compunction to rush into anything, especially in the shorting-stocks department.

I would rather be late to that party than early, since it's so clear to me that when stocks go down next time, they're going to go down for real. I anticipate that we will see a huge decline, with the major averages falling over 50%.

Ferreting out before forging ahead
Though I feel that I know how this movie ends, I don't know quite where we are and what action to take yet. (That's another big reason for my inaction over the last few weeks). I am searching for clues as to what to do in all those markets, and I will share with readers what I think and do once I arrive at a conclusion. Of course, there's no guarantee that I will be right. But for what it's worth, this is my roadmap and strategy for the year that's all of two weeks old.




KastelCo

01/10/04 5:44 PM

#7227 RE: loantech #7223

It's the jobs. We'll tool along a little longer.. rates will not rise much... it's the jobs.. JMHO...

I like that explanation of groos salary to home cast...
I never thought of it that way... I remember when my dad was making 15 grand a year and that was a decent salary and we 'upscaled' to a 21K home...

nspolar

01/11/04 2:23 PM

#7236 RE: loantech #7223

lt, Mauldin the 'I' man,

I did this, I predicted this, ..... I never screw up anything.

Sexton O Blake

01/11/04 11:17 PM

#7242 RE: loantech #7223

Re: Our parents did not have credit cards and big car loans.

Well at 35, neither have I. On my second car (in my life; only own 1 car), in a town house (put 25% down - and that was a $200K CDN townhouse to boot; apparently worth $300K now if anyone can believe it because I can't). Two kids, stay at home wife. Never a credit card balance outstanding. Never. Only loan is a mortgage (basic; monthly; non-accelerated). Only thing I did do was borrow against retirement savings to raise the downpayment and lower the monthlys (evil perhaps but happily I am close to repaying that in full about 50% earlier than allowed). --- and not to mention a modest sized portfolio to manage - not bad for my age.

But most people I know - battle with car loans or leases; have higher mortgage payments due to lower downpayments; have credit card debt. RSPs or RESPs? What the FCUK is that? May or may not have two cars; both people work; maybe kids. But the car is probably far newer than mine and the lifestyle affords trips and the like regularly. My last trip was 97. Before that about 5 times in a row to Vegas in the early 90's. Spend spend spend.

All I hear - ALL I HEAR is credit card debt. No mortgage debt. This article was the first to mention "mortgage debt is larger than credit card debt". Since when is mortgage debt bad? (he didn't think so) Perhaps when you are barely making the payments and/or you are using the home for line of credit to pay off the credit cards? Only two reasons I know. If Mortgage was the only debt (mine) I would be laughing. (that is me chuckling by the way).

I listen to Suze Orman (yeah, the l0zer on CNBC who is telling people how to avert financial disaster - like a Porno Star turned Preacher is more like it - since she was bankrupt before). Anyways, I hear these calls "my husband has a credit card debt of $50,000" "we have cc debt of $25,000" ALL THE TIME! Even 100,000!! It is outrageous.

I can't fathom how people live month to month paying out so much credit card interest. Yes the occasional and even running a balance of $5K over time is manageable. But these numbers are massive - and it is as rampant as obesity. Seriously. Somehow people out there think they can drink, spend and eat with no reprecussions. Drugs? Thats another Trick of the Tail..

I had to point out your statement of "our parents" because I don't see buying more than I can afford. Never have. I wanted a lot whilst in school - but when I got my first job in Mar 13, 1989, I bought nothing until that fall - even then it was a few modest home electronics. In the spring of 90 a modest used car - paid cash. Deferred payments - don't touch them. Managing the use of the credit card to the hilt - almost everything goes through it - but always pay on time. Right now I have about $1500 in free travel from Royal Bank thanks to using the credit card from 97.

I had to chuckle - a pair in the office I worked - the guy leased a car. (to me the only purpose of leasing is for business use only; regular joes that lease - paying far too high a premium to have the smell of new leather instad of ass under their "seats"). Anyways, I can't tell you if it was our fault but we mentioned - "you better watch the mileage - unless you prepaid or got a good fixed amount, you might pay through the nose when you turn it in". The trip was about 40KM/day. I have no idea on the numbers for the lease. So what do you think happened? His girlfriend, who turned in two ways -- she became his wife and she wore the pants in the family -- leased a car (!!!!) Because they realized that perhaps they would have problems and figured if they alternate driving, the mileage would be sufficient. Now chuckle. Unreal.

BTW: It is always cheaper to rent if you don't plan on staying in a home for more than 5 years since the interest part is higher than the principle.

Anyways, I rather look at how long it takes to buy a car with my wage. Seeing as hopefully everyone gets to a point and move to a bigger/better home - I think comparing to the mortgage has less of an impact. Cars today are more than they were - but then again they are better too. But every 5-10 years you need a new/different car..

My tree cents anyways.. now to off to have a caufee..
Cheers!

PS: I wondered all day how I could get the words PORNO and PREACHER in the same sentence.. ;-)

EDIT: I may be atypical of most families - but that cuz Johnny jumped off the bridge, doesn't mean everyone should follow. I am happy that I can control my expenses and have a portfolio to manage and not have outrageous debts. I just see the everyone out there spending with disregard. I don't agree with it. If I am not the norm, so be it. If I can make money from their heartaches (via the likes of AXP), even better.



basserdan

01/13/04 9:23 AM

#7268 RE: loantech #7223

G'morning Tom,

Was a verdict ever reached w/r to Goldeye Explorations being the company referenced in the CKG Sedar filing that mentioned Randy's 40% interest? You seem to be close to CKG, and if so, could you ask them when you next speak to them?

Fwiw, I still own it and at US$0.37, seems to have enough going for it to warrant a significantly higher valuation.


Goldeye Explorations Limited (GGY.V) starts 4,000 meter drill program in Tyrrell Township and Options Sonia-Puma Gold/Silver property in central Chile

Monday January 12, 4:31 pm ET

TORONTO, ONTARIO--Goldeye Explorations Limited announces that a 4,000 meter drill program will start January 19, 2004 on the Hydro Creek and Big Dome zones on the Tyrrell Township property. The program will follow-up a drill program completed in November 2003 on the LaCarte North zone that intersected 7.24 grams per tonne (g/t) gold across 9.4 meters (m). A 700 m long Spectral IP anomaly extends from the LaCarte North Zone to the northwest. Additional holes will be drilled to bracket hole HC-23 that intersected 4.28 g/t gold across 12.1 m including 6.42 g/t gold across 6.5 m. The Big Dome will be drilled approximately 1.5 km to the SE where hole GE-09 intersected 149 g/t gold across 1.4 m and hole GE-07 intersected 0.26 g/t gold across 165.9 m including 9.16 g/t gold across 1.0 m. The first phase of the 2004 drilling project is expected to take two months to complete.

Goldeye is also pleased to announce that it has entered into a letter of intent to form an option agreement with Olympus Exploration Inc. (Olympus), a private Ontario corporation, to acquire a 100% interest in their Sonia-Puma low sulphidization, epithermal, gold-silver exploration project in Region V, Central Chile. Goldeye will carry out exploration on the Sonia Property which covers 3,700 ha and the Puma Property, which covers 600 ha. Within the Sonia Property three areas of gold-silver mineralization have been identified, the Sonia Zone, the Paso del Inca Zone, and the Escondido-Condor Zone. At the Puma the exploration concessions (pedimentos) cover an argillic-siliceous alteration zone. Two programs of surface mapping, prospecting and sampling carried out by Olympus identified the mineralized areas and have shown that the properties lie on a large regional fault structure which hosts porphyry copper and epithermal gold deposits.

Work in the Sonia, Pasco del Inca, and Escondido-Condor areas has identified multiple mineralized zones consisting of banded, fissure type, 0.2 m to 2.5 m wide quartz veins exhibiting low sulphidation-type textures and mineralization as well as pervasively silicified, sheeted quartz stringer zones with widths to 30 m in quartz feldspar porphyry (QFP) dykes. The main Sonia Zone, which is the latter type, has been traced on surface for about 175 m and boulders in talus suggest it continues to the south for about 1 km. To the west there are an additional four parallel zones similar to the Sonia vein-zone as well as mineralized quartz veins. Values at Sonia range from 23 ppb to 0.63 /t gold and 305 g/t silver across 11.0 m as well as 7.75 g/t gold and 218 g/t silver across 5.5 m.

In the Paso del Inca Zone which is 2.5 km west of the Sonia Zone, mineralized quartz veins and pervasively silicified QFP dykes which occur in an area measuring 1.0 km by 0.75 km are associated with a QFP flow dome. Values from surface sampling range from 20 ppb gold to 1.13 g/t gold and 87.9 g/t silver across 2.4 m. At the Escondido-Condor Zone, 1.3 km to the west-

south-west of Paso del Inca, two fissure-type quartz vein systems discovered during the second prospecting program have yielded values from 67 ppb gold and 2.5 g/t silver across 1.9 m to 4.76 g/t gold and 15.9 g/t silver across 1.5 m. Within the centre of the Puma alteration zone, two composite chip samples from a pervasively silicified cap-rock assayed 447 ppb gold and 3.2 g/t silver and 640 ppb gold and 1.7 g/t silver respectively.

Goldeye Exploration Limited can earn a 100% interest in the Sonia and Puma Properties, subject to a 2% Net Smelter Return (NSR). A 50% undivided interest will vest in Goldeye if it makes a cash payment of $10,000, delivers 100,000 common shares of Goldeye in accordance with the provisions, policies, and requirements of the TSX Venture Exchange and any other applicable regulatory restrictions or requirements, and incurs exploration expenditures of not less than $100,000 by June 30, 2006. Goldeye can earn a 100% interest by incurring further expenditures of not less than $500,000 by June 30, 2008 and making a further payment of $250,000 in either cash or the equivalent sum in common shares of Goldeye based on the average closing trading price on the ten trading days prior to the date of delivery of the shares. Goldeye has the right to repurchase the 2% NSR at a price of $500,000 per 0.5% NSR.

Stewart Winter, P.Geo.. an officer and director of Olympus has been actively involved in the exploration work carried out in Chile by Olympus and has agreed to assist Goldeye in its evaluation of the Sonia and Puma properties as well as the surrounding area. Goldeye intends to apply its regional compilation methods to the area and to conduct its proprietary detailed Spectral IP followed up by drilling on the three mineralized zones discovered to date.

Goldeye also wishes to report that it has completed a non-brokered private placement for proceeds of $237,575 with nine arm's length subscribers. 791,917 units were issued at a price of $0.30 per unit consisting of one-flow-through common share and one-half of one warrant. The warrants are non-flow-through and non-transferable and each whole warrant entitles the holder to purchase an additional common share at a price of $ 0.40 per share until December 31, 2005. The securities issued pursuant to this placement are subject to resale restrictions expiring on April 30, 2004. Additional investments of $119,304.10 were received by the Company from 7 warrant holders who exercised a total of 635,583 warrants.

Goldeye is a Canadian exploration company with projects in Northwestern Ontario (Sandy Lake, Boyer Lake and Gold Rock), Northeastern Ontario (Tyrrell Project) and the Sonia-Puma project in central Chile. Goldeye has 18,752,680 issued and outstanding following this offering.

Goldeye invites the public to visit its website at www.tor.axxent.com/%7Egoldeye or e-mail us at goldeye@tor.axxent.ca.

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