A pipe is all about shorting, then the other stuff.......... And don't forget the sprinkles of options and warrants. They get their money on both sides. Being they are the stock, it is all superficial unless you play on the side they are playing. And if you play wrong or too long, find a bucket to put your brains in. If the magic of DNAG exists as you claim, Dutchess would not be at the party. Dutchess is here because no one else would come. They make the stock. They break the stock. They are the stock. Nothing else matters.