FWIW.
From Raging Bull on Bashers:
hmmmm IT IS EASIER TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING THAN IT IS TO INFORM PEOPLE INTO BUYING A
STOCK.
Well I asked those same friends this last week, and the answer from all YES! message boards and
"shorts"(some) can manipulate with lies, and deceit.
Now think about that, you have elderly that invest and find their way to the message boards only to see false
posts about "SEC Violations" and "Class action suits" or you have a Yuppie with a kid to put in college going
to these message boards only to see posts by 15-20 (probably 5 or 6 under alias) "pack of shorts" posting
the same false stuff about SEC Violations or lawsuits or "there's bad news coming out" ....what do you think
they will do ?
It's easier to sell the stock and put the money into the bank for nervous people like the elderly and the Yuppie
who needs college funds.
THAT'S WHO THE PACK OF SHORTS PRAY ON AND DEPEND ON.
They bet on a stock to go down-not up! Understand? And they have just as much money and risk as you. But
they have the edge of fear, lies, falsehoods to post and pray on the nervous. Longs don't have that.
Lesson 1: Remember, BASHERS NEVER BASH A BAD STOCK.
Watch the board for stocks with no potential. They never have any bashers. Bashers only go after stocks that
are going upwards or have excellent potential to go up. Bashers get left behind, so they want to bring the
price down to be able to get in at a great price.
Lesson 2: BASHERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES.
New startup companies always have a few bits of bad news. The basher will post this over and over again.
The stupid basher will try to make the old news a bit fresher to try to fool you.
Lesson 3: BASHERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY.
They try to wear you out. They comment on everything, every other post, and can answer every question.
THEY KNOW IT ALL! There is no positive comment they won't bash. They try to control the board. True longs
may have to address the bashers or they will appear to the newbies as being the people with all the
information.
Lesson 4: BASHERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE. Never trust a basher. The truth on startup companies is that
many mistakes are made and losses happen. The basher will try to make you believe all startup companies
make a profit, release financials every quarter and all aspects of the business run smoothly. THIS IS NOT
TRUE. THE BASHERS LIE TO YOU. Startup companies can go years without profits, financials and good
business, this is the nature of the beast.
Lesson 5: The bashers know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR STATEMENTS. That's why they make the
statements they do.
Lesson 6: The bashers PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE.
They can lie about information and you couldn't know the difference (unless you have done your assessment
of the company and know the truth and facts).
Lesson 7: Bashers play on your lack of patience. YOU have held a stock for a while. You knew it will be a big
stock someday, but the BASHER CAN GET TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOUR
GAIN. That's when the basher is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the goal for the stock was to hold it
for one year. The basher is bothersome, so you dump it on a bad day. Some others also dump. Then you get
mad for your loss and return to let
everyone know how mad you are. Then you turn into a basher as well. THE BASHER HAS WON, AND GAINED
A NEW PARTNER, TOO.
Lesson 8: BRING THE PRICE DOWN. That is the basher's job. The truth is not important. Lies are the norm.
Post continuously on the board every day. They are trying to hit the newbies visiting the board. They are
trying to wear out the longs on the board. They do whatever it takes to wear the longs out.
Lesson 9: BASHERS WILL TRY TO CREAT DOUBT AND GET YOU TO RESEARCH ITEMS THAT THEY
KNOW WILL LEAD TO THE CREATION OF DOUBT IN YOU AND IN OTHER STOCKHOLDERS.
A typical trick of an advanced basher is to propose that there is a potential "problem" because "we" don't
have the facts on a particular subject. The basher dares someone in the group to find out the answer to the
question. The basher already knows the answer; the basher already knows what will be found. The power of
this tactic is that the basher is now in control of the actions of the stockholders; the basher has you, the
stockholder doing HIS/HER due diligence and when you, the stockholder come back to the group with a
questionalbe finding then the basher gains credibility. What to do??? Solution??? Well, I think it's important to
find answers but on your own terms. I actually pick up the phone and call the company and talk to the investor
relations person or the CEO until I get a satisfactory answer. The problem here is that the advanced basher
has you doing his bidding and his work; you have essentially joined his ranks. So, develop your own little Due
Diligence package and answer questions by placing the information into the package and referring all new
investors to read the answers to questions raised in the Investor Information package but DON'T GET INTO A
CONVERSATION WITH THE BASHER REGARDING THE TOPIC. THAT IS WHERE YOU LOSE. DON'T
CONVERSE WITH THE BASHER; ANSWER INDIRECTLY; DON'T USE THE BASHERS NAME; DON'T GET
INTO A PERSONALITY CONTEST.
A BASHERS HANDBOOK: know the enemy who wishes to steal your money!
Do not underestimate a bashers influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is
profit from your losses. Below is their "hand-book" so to speak. Learn from it or donate your money to those
who make an organized plan to steal your money!
BASHERS DO THE FOLLOWING:
1. Be annonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a support base before initiating your bashing
routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.
7. Do not start with an all out slam of the stock. Build to it.
8. Identify your foes (hypsters) and the boards "guru" Use them to your advantage. Lead them do not follow
their lead.
9. Only bash until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being open minded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.
12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a "basher". Newbies won't know your history.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour unless your foe is a weak in
reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the run. Not to tank the company or create a plunge in the stock; be
subtle and consistent.
17. Kill the dreams of profits, not the company or the stock.
18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to reinforce facts.
19. DO NOT LIE, DO NOT NAME CALL and DO NOT USE PROFANITY.
20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call
you can always find something that is inaccurate in how they report their findings.
21. Discourage people for taking the companies word for anything. Encourage them to call the company.
They won't out of laziness.
22. If the companies history/PR's are negative constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to
beginning your efforts.
23. If the price rises blame it on the hype or the PR, temporary mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but
the stock itself.
24. If other posters share your concerns, play on that and share theirs too.
25. Always cite low volume, even when it's not.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the longs.
27. Bait the hypsters into personal debates putting their focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert
thier attention from facts. Show them the facts from a "different angle."
28. Promote other stocks that would-be investors can turn to instead of the one your bashing.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with
your own rules.
GRADE YOUR FAVORITE BASHER:
Advanced Basher:
Will join the message board early and actually "pump" the stock with positives; this basher is very intelligent,
has the facts of the company, actually helps longs with Due Diligence and generally gets the confidence of
the stockholders. Then, when the stock hits their price, the tone will change and they will start asking longs to
check into this and check into that. The seeds of doubt are being planted. This basher will then start using all
the tactics listed on this page to create seeds of doubt. ALWAYS LOOK AT THE PROFILE OF A PERSON
YOU SUSPECT. ASK WHAT STOCKS THEY'VE "SUPPORTED" IN THE PAST AND CHECK OUT THE
MESSAGE BOARD. An honest person will have a positive track record that can be followed. I strongly believe
that a contrarian view is needed but this person is out to steal your money and does it by deception and
creates fear after gaining confidence! BEWARE, this is the most clever basher and the hardest to spot.
Grade A Basher:
Posts lots of old news, responds to all positive posts with a negative side. Never responds to being called a
basher, never posts on another board. Can spend up to 80 hours a week bashing a stock.
Grade B Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the positive poster into confidence, never
posts on another board, spends about 60 hours a week.
Grade C Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when
bashers rules say not to get excited, spends about 40 hours a week.
Grade D Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a negative statement. Spends a good amount
of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours a week.
Grade F Basher:
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