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Georgia Bard

09/19/01 11:16 PM

#756 RE: Inho Kim #755

Ghandi was a great man ... but that post is a crock of nothing more than nonsense. We have tried negotiating and being the talkative type. We got our economy nailed and over 5000 innocent dead.

Personally I say nail the Islam Extremeist with quick in and out. Any Islam government that does not like it start making glassy plains. As far as Islam religion or political issues that is not USA affairs. Just taking out all the terrorist groups and nail the governments that have hide them.

The enemy:

Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Alex Boncayao Brigade (ABB)
Anti-Imperialist International Brigade (AIIB)
see Japanese Red Army
Arab Revolutionary Brigades
see Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
Armed Islamic Group
Army for the Liberation of Rwanda (ALIR)
Aum Shinrikyo
see Aum Supreme Truth (Aum)
Aum Supreme Truth (Aum)
Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
Black September
see Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
Continuity Army Council
see Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA)
Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA)
Dev Sol
see Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
Devrimci Sol (Revolutionary Left)
see Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
Egyptian Islamic Jihad
see Al-Jihad
Ellalan Force
see The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
Euzkadi Ta Askatasuna
see Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
Fatah Revolutionary Council
see Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
Federation of Associations of Canadian Tamils (FACT)
see The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
First of October Antifascist Resistance Group (GRAPO)
Former Armed Forces (ex-FAR)
see Army for the Liberation of Rwanda (ALIR)
Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya
HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)
Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
Hizballah (Party of God)
Interahamwe
see Army for the Liberation of Rwanda (ALIR)
Irish Republican Army (IRA)
see Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA)
The Islamic Group (IG)
see Al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya
Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM) (Army of Mohammed)
Islamic Jihad
see Al-Jihad
Islamic Jihad for the Liberation of Palestine
see Hizballah (Party of God)
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
Japanese Red Army (JRA)
Al-Jihad
Jihad Group
see Al-Jihad
Kach and Kahane Chai
Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)
Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LT) (Army of the Righteous)
The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
Loyalist Volunteer Force (LVF)
The Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO)
Muslim Iranian Students Society
see The Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO)
National Council of Resistance
see The Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO)
National Liberation Army (ELN)--Colombia
The National Liberation Army of Iran
see The Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO)
New People's Army (NPA)
Orange Volunteers (OV)
Organization of the Oppressed on Earth
see Hizballah (Party of God)
Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
People Against Gangsterism and Drugs (PAGAD)
The People's Mujahedin of Iran (PMOI)
see The Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK or MKO)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC)
Al-Qaida
Real IRA (RIRA)
Red Hand Defenders (RHD)
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
Revolutionary Justice Organization
see Hizballah (Party of God)
Revolutionary Organization 17 November (17 November)
Revolutionary Organization of Socialist Muslims
see Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
Revolutionary People's Struggle (ELA)
Revolutionary United Front (RUF)
Sangillan Force
see The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path, SL)
Talaa'al-Fateh
see Al-Jihad
True IRA
see Real IRA (RIRA)
Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement (MRTA)
United Self-Defense Forces/Group of Colombia (AUC)
World Tamil Association (WTA)
see The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
World Tamil Movement (WTM)
see The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
Groups Listed in Prior Editions of Patterns of Global Terrorism.
3rd October Organization
see Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA)
15 May Organization
Algerian Terrorism
Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA)
Al-'Asifa
see Al-Fatah
Chukaku-Ha (Nucleus or Middle Core Faction)
Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP)
Al-Fatah
Force 17
Irish Republican Army (IRA)
Jamaat ul-Fuqra
Khmer Rouge
Lautaro Popular Rebel Forces (FRPL)
see Lautaro Youth Movement (MJL)
Lautaro Youth Movement (MJL)
Manuel Rodriguez Patriotic Front (FPMR)
Morazanist Patriotic Front (FPM)
National Liberation Army (ELN) - Bolivia / Nestor Paz Zamora Commission (CNPZ)
The Orly Group
see Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA)
Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)
Party of Democratic Kampuchea
see Khmer Rouge
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-Special Command (PFLP-SC)
Popular Struggle Front (PSF)
Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA)
see Irish Republican Army (IRA)
Provos
see Irish Republican Army (IRA)
Puka Inti (Sol Rojo, Red Sun)
Red Army Faction (RAF)
Red Brigades (BR)
Sikh Terrorism
Sol Rojo
see Puka Inti (Sol Rojo, Red Sun)
Tupac Katari Guerrilla Army (EGTK)
Al Ummah
United Popular Action Movement (MAPU/L)
see Lautaro Youth Movement (MJL)
Zviadists


:=) Gary Swancey

Ike Latif

09/20/01 11:26 AM

#773 RE: Inho Kim #755

<when is Islam going to have its Reformation?>
It is a race to the bottom in Islamic world Peter.... all extremists are alike, all those who don't forgive and tolerate are alike, fortitude, forebearnce, tolerance and continous study to learn are keys to reformation, we have none of this in ample supplies in our societies, with kind
of Osamas we have, how can we think otherwise. I have learned this in my little useful or useless life.
Until they think freely and out of the control of clergy that dominates them.

Intellectual inquiry is frowned, theory conspiracies abound and struggle against win of Allah untiring, that unfortunately leads them the dash to the bottom of the world table in terms of human development index. On education the lowest is Afghanistan, Somalia, Chad and Sudan and what is common in them they are all Muslim nation's, on children illiteracy the highest in the world is again the galaxy of the nations that are Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan .

In infant mortality again same nations with some varied difference head the table, unless we go for education the right kind, allow the enquiry of mind and allow them to grow open this bigotry and this renaissance would never materialize, I hate to write all that, I am one of the inhabitants of that region, I come from a background that was great because my grand father sided with British philosophy to train his kids in normal schools instead of religious schools which only teach religion and dogma.

Our reformists or people who challenge this all are called as infidels and declared apostates handed swift justice, the race to the bottom never ends it accelerates with events like that of 11th, Sept the blackest day for mankind, in this day and age if we still have to convince nations that it was wrong and it was reprehensible it means that renaissance has not even started, how many Muslims who read my thread has come out and said Ike we listen to you, we share or we oppose your views, that silence disturbs me, about markets I get a lot of enquiries from my brethren who consider me one of them, about humanity none, that makes me very very sad.



Iqbal Latif