rager, that poster is both right and wrong. Nobody was kickin when the market was booming. BUT, the MM's had plenty of volume, so they could get rich on narrow spreads and without screwing much with the stock. Plus, as long as we were making money, we either didn't notice or care what they were doing. He's also right that this shìtty market isn't their fault. BUT, they still gotta eat, so now they put the screws to us and it's very noticeable. JMO of course, but I'm no market guru!...RunninAmuck