right, he is the reason the price is where it is. I don't think anyone considers why the price is where it is and how did it get there. For some, it all comes back to the same song that sandy is screwing the s/h. The billions of shares out right now were from a C/D that helped get TFN off the ground. Would we rather that that C/D never happened? If so, then we'd prob rather that TFN never happened.