Replies to post #474632 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[fuagf]

Don't ever be concerned about your cred here. We know where your heart and your head is, and none
of the bs of conix and others rubs off on the rest of us. It's a beautiful old hotel. Good works. Well done.

There is likely some truth in your white elite building owners ideas too.

[Zorax]

Been there years ago. Area is from 1920-30's era of Detroit in the bootleg days and such. Fisher made many buildings downtown and out past 1-94.

A forever problem with Detroit, as well as all large cities cycling through stages is a fairly large amount of structures are owned by out of towners who don't even live in the same state. Large chunks of development in Michigan from Detroit to the UP is owned by developers from Chicago as well.

Being a out of state owner opens up a lot of opportunities for fraud as depending on distant management is difficult to police. This doesn't even cover the amount of foreign owners of city property and industry all over the country.

In Detroit, Mike Ilitch of little ceasers and red wings fame has done a lot for downtown central Detroit, but only in that small area and still the company is profiting from tax abatements and grants. Everyone does that. It's biz. Pockets of revival in Det. and other cities, but they don't embrace the rest of the city and mass transit could be better. People mover was cool, but it didn't finalize and only built out about 1/4 of the plan. It was supposed to go woodward to the subs and e/w beyond the Fisher -GM building grand blvd. A REAL people mover. Asshole subs and areas beyond the downtown circuit fought it.

That may have been a racial thing too.