Yeah, I did some digging on GammaRey folks and it was pretty easy to see the problems there with the trash management. I think Gologiq dodged a bullet honestly, but what’s left of their deal with RCRT is simply not all that impressive from my viewpoint. It’s possible there’s more going on in Vietnam / SE Asia than I presume. Chicken paws (whatever TF those are) seem to be all the rage right now so who knows.