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Good luck with that. It won't fly. In Hawaii it was open. Here they did it without the public's knowledge. Hawaii had not finished a partial recount by the time both parties decided to choose their electors.

But on the day Trump electors met, Georgia had already counted its ballots not once, but three times. Neither party suggested wrongdoing in the Hawaii vote count. In Georgia, Trump lawsuits had been routinely dismissed for lack of evidence or standing.

In the brief, Willis summarily dismissed the comparison between the action of the Georgia defendants and “actions that did not result in prosecution 60 years ago in a different jurisdiction with different election code and criminal statutes, presided over by different prosecuting agencies, and with differing substantive evidence of criminal intent.”

Willis highlighted crucial differences in the factual content of the two cases “so readily distinguishable as to make the comparison meaningless.”

“In 1960, by the December 19 date when the Hawaii electors met, the Republican slate of electors had been certified by the Governor based on the initial tally of votes, but due to the close margin of less than 150 votes, an official recount was ongoing,” Willis wrote. “In the present case, when Defendant (Cathy) Latham and the other fraudulent electors met, two recounts had already been completed, each of which confirmed a margin of victory for then-candidate Biden of more than eleven thousand votes.”

Cathy Latham was one of 16 Georgia Republicans who signed a certificate claiming to be “duly elected and qualified electors,” falsely attesting that Trump had won the 2020 election.

Willis noted that when the Hawaii recount resolved the election in Kennedy’s favor, and a court affirmed the process, the governor recertified the election and appointed the Democratic slate of electors.

“It was this official certification of the Democratic electors that was counted in the Electoral College tally on January 6, 1961,” she wrote. “Defendant and her cohort of fraudulent electors had no such official stamp of approval. Their losing effort was never reversed by a recount, never subjected to the supervision of any court, never certified by the Governor, and never sent through official channels to the Senate. Instead, it was used to further a clumsy but relentless pressure campaign on the Vice President and state legislatures, and as a means to publicly undermine the legitimate results of the presidential election. There is no guiding precedent to be found here.”

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Every state sets its own threshold for when to do a recount. Some require one whenever an election is especially close. Recounts were not done because of anomaly spikes.

1. Arizona – Maricopa County Full Forensic Audit (Completed September 24, 2021)
Biden defeated Trump by 10,457 votes in Arizona, a 0.31% margin.[11] In Maricopa County, the biggest county in Arizona and fourth-largest in the nation, Biden won by 45,109 votes (2.22% margin).[12][13]
In March 2021, Arizona’s Republican-led Senate hired a company called Cyber Ninjas to perform what it called a “full forensic audit” of the Maricopa County’s 2020 election results, including a hand recount of the 2,089,563 ballots cast.[14] The audit cost an estimated $5.7 million, paid for by several pro-Trump groups.[15]
The Cyber Ninjas September 24, 2021, report showed that Biden gained 99 votes while Trump lost 261, a net increase of 360 votes for Biden’s margin of victory. The audit changed the margin of victory from 2.22% to 2.23%, and confirmed Biden’s victory in the county.[16]

2. Georgia – Statewide Risk-Limiting Audit (Completed November 19, 2020)
A 2019 law led to the Georgia State Election Board’s 2020 rule requiring a risk-limiting audit following November general elections in even-numbered years prior to certifying the results.[19] For the 2020 election, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger called it “an audit, a recount and a recanvass all at once.” While the audit was required by law, he called for the recount due to the close margins of the results.[20]Stephen Fowler, “Georgia To Conduct Hand Recount In Razor-Thin Presidential Race,” gpb.org, November 11, 2020 Georgia manually recounted the state’s approximately 5 million votes in the 2020 presidential election.

Biden gained 1,758 votes while Trump gained 3,032, a net decrease of 1,274 votes for Biden’s margin of victory. The audit changed the margin of victory from 0.27% to 0.25%, but confirmed Biden’s victory in the state.[21]

3. Georgia – Statewide Trump-Requested Recount (Completed December 7, 2020)
Georgia law allows for candidates to request a recount after the voted are certified if the margin is less than 0.5%. This recount involves rescanning the paper ballots by machine. Results of a recount become the new official results.[22] It’s not clear why the initial counts dated November 20, 2020, are slightly different than the published risk-limiting audit results (shown above in rows 2 and 3), but the outcome is not impacted by the discrepancy.

Biden lost 874 votes while Trump gained 17, net decrease of 891 votes for Biden’s margin of victory. The recount changed the margin of victory from 0.26% to 0.24%, but confirmed Biden’s victory in the state.[23]

4. Pennsylvania – Statewide Forensic Audit Investigation (Unresolved)
Pennsylvania law requires an automatic recount if the margin is 0.5% or less, but it was not triggered because Biden’s margin of victory was 1.19%.[24]

5. Texas – Full Forensic Audit in Four Counties (Phase I Completed December 31, 2021)
Although he won the state by over five points, Trump called on Texas to audit its results in an open letter to Texas Governor Greg Abbott on September 23, 2021. Within hours, the Texas secretary of state’s office announced an audit of what it called “Texas’ two largest Democrat counties and two largest Republican counties — Dallas, Harris, Tarrant, and Collin — for the 2020 election.”[30][31] In the 2020 election, Biden won Dallas, Harris, and Tarrant counties while Collin went to Trump.[32]
The audit had two phases planned: Testing Voting Machine Accuracy, Cybersecurity Assessments, and Identifying and Removing Ineligible Voters Who Cast Ballots in 2020 (Phase I) and Comprehensive Election Records Examination (Phase II).[33] A report with Phase I results was released December 31, 2021, covering the audit of the 3,885,875 votes cast in Dallas, Harris, Tarrant, and Collin counties.

While the audit report did not list vote totals for Biden or Trump, the election results did not change. The audit found a total of 32 vote discrepancies in three of the four counties: 17 votes in Collin attributed to curbside voting machines that did not produce paper results and thus could not be hand-counted; 10 votes in Dallas resulting from a data entry error in the manual recount; and five votes in Harris due to an error in the manual counting of mail-in ballots. No discrepancies were found in Tarrant County.[34]

6. Wisconsin – Trump-Requested Recount in Two Counties (Completed November 29, 2020)
Wisconsin law allows candidates to request a recount if the margin of victory is less than 1.0%. Biden’s margin over Trump was 0.64%, so the Trump campaign requested a recount in two Wisconsin counties, Dane and Milwaukee. The campaign had to pay the $3 million cost because the state only pays if the margin is less than or equal to 0.25% of the total vote.[35][36]
The Dane County recount, completed on November 29, 2020, found that Biden lost 91 votes and Trump lost 46. Biden’s margin of victory was 53.52%, and the recount confirmed Biden’s victory in the county.[37][38]
The Milwaukee County recount, completed on November 27, 2020, found that Biden gained 257 votes while Trump gained 125. Biden’s margin of victory remained at 40.50%, and the recount confirmed Biden’s victory in the county.[39]
Biden gained 166 votes total in the two county recounts, while Trump gained 79, a net gain of 87 votes for Biden’s margin of victory. The recount left Biden’s margin of victory in the state at 0.64%, and confirmed Biden’s victory. It is not clear why the updated state results post-recount show a net increase of 74 votes for Biden rather than 87, but the outcome is not impacted by this discrepancy.[40] [41]