Replies to post #457478 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[blackhawks]

Sorry you couldn't comprehend what you were reading. So we're left with government data VS what you pulled out of your ass.

Bottom line is that circumstances are MUCH less worse than what you posted.

I like this one in particular. It's in stark contrast to Red State welfare where most of those States get back more federal tax money REDISTRIBUTED to them than they pay in taxes

How much do legal immigrants use federal public benefit programs?

Legal immigrants use federal public benefit programs at lower rates than U.S.-born
citizens. As recently as 2013, the rate at which non-citizens have used public benefit programs
was less than that of U.S.-born citizens. For example, 32.5 percent of native-born citizen adults
receive SNAP benefits compared to 25.4 percent of naturalized citizen adults and 29 percent of
noncitizen adults. In addition to immigrants’ lower rate of SNAP usage, they also receive lower
benefit values, costing the program less.



How much do immigrants contribute to support public benefits programs?

How much do legal immigrants use federal public benefit programs?

Legal immigrants use federal public benefit programs at lower rates than U.S.-born
citizens. As recently as 2013, the rate at which non-citizens have used public benefit programs
was less than that of U.S.-born citizens. For example, 32.5 percent of native-born citizen adults
receive SNAP benefits compared to 25.4 percent of naturalized citizen adults and 29 percent of
noncitizen adults. In addition to immigrants’ lower rate of SNAP usage, they also receive lower
benefit values, costing the program less.

How much do immigrants contribute to support public benefits programs?

Both documented and undocumented immigrants pay more into public benefit
programs than they take out. According to Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy,
undocumented immigrants contribute an estimated $11.74 billion to state and local economies
each year. However, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for many of the federal or state
benefits that their tax dollars help fund.

Additionally, a few states have completed studies demonstrating that immigrants pay more in
taxes than they receive in government services and benefits. A study in Arizona found that the
state’s immigrants generate $2.4 billion in tax revenue per year, which more than offsets the $1.4
billion in their use of benefit programs. Another study in Florida estimated that, on a per capita
basis, immigrants in the state pay nearly $1,500 more in taxes per capita than they receive in
public benefits.According to Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy,
undocumented immigrants contribute an estimated $11.74 billion to state and local economies
each year. However, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for many of the federal or state
benefits that their tax dollars help fund.

Additionally, a few states have completed studies demonstrating that immigrants pay more in
taxes than they receive in government services and benefits. A study in Arizona found that the
state’s immigrants generate $2.4 billion in tax revenue per year, which more than offsets the $1.4
billion in their use of benefit programs. Another study in Florida estimated that, on a per capita
basis, immigrants in the state pay nearly $1,500 more in taxes per capita than they receive in
public benefits.

[zab]

https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/north-american-century/benefits-of-immigration-outweigh-costs

The George W. Bush Institute.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/4-myths-about-how-immigrants-affect-the-u-s-economy

Almost all immigrants, since the founding of this nation have always contributed more than they have ever received.

No one here can explain the reality of America to you. You choose to believe things that are simply not true. That is your choice.,

Just look around this country, our economy is the envy of the world. That has happened because America thrives on immigration, it has always grown thanks to immigrants. Immigrants bring their diverse cultures and enhance the American economy.

[newmedman]

There are private charities, like food banks and shelters that don't cost taxpayers a dime and unlike you there are some people in the world who show compassion for less privileged people regardless of their race, religion or visa status. I volunteer at a local food bank from time to time. (was there yesterday morning) I can guarantee you that the bulk of the people who came in were english speaking US citizens and that's normally the case.

If someone needs medical help, there are also doctors who donate their time and don't charge medicare for anything. Really think about what you're saying. If an undocumented immigrant gets a case of the sniffles, do you think they run to the doctors office with their lack of transportation and income capabilities?

Your posts today are about as tone deaf as they come and your replacement theory leanings are nonsense, just as blackhawks showed you.

Now granted, I believe our immigration system needs to be overhauled but until folks like you and the GOP get out of gaslighting the problems for political gain, then nothing will ever be resolved.

The bottom line is we need skilled and unskilled migrant workers to keep our country humming and until someone can figure out a way to streamline the process we'll be having this conversation until the end of time.

You have a right to your own opinion, but let's get the facts straight before you start throwing around right wing talking points willy nilly like a 5th grader in a schoolyard who just got bested by a Guatemalan at kickball.