but now the technology environment including sms security via 8 and partners is ready? i am always the optimist. what happened to the ld interop conferences they used to have in vegas? the old ones chose novell for the server ip and neoware for the client, but i think v ip got the patent/s along with 8. wags. otherwise , it would be neoware and novell.......in the discussion.......novell now dilulted across hp/microfocus/opentext...along with v ip teamsite? neoware similarly via their acquisition by hp...with vestiges in the govt/dod world via hp spin/mergers. wags. and 8 with an ongoing patent wins and v ip with the crucial ones of method/systems.and how to get the markup/data where it's needed, etc.