Yeah the "grab" video is very embarrassing for all parties. Not for what most individuals pitch...just the opposite. More like this:
Because dudes just don't talk like that...and if they did...they would be made fun of by their peers as being lame and completely inexperienced. Like the virgin in the clip :)
So those two were lame as hell...lol. Really bad and full of shite'...lol.
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